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Christy

Member Since Jul 6 2008 9:51 AM
Offline Last Active Oct 4 2018 5:26 PM

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In Topic: What Was the 2007 War We Had? W/ all clans?

16 September 2018 - 11:33 AM

why does everyone who comes back from clanning in 2007 sound like they had a stroke and then found god and want to recruit you


In Topic: Clan Of The Month/Wilderness(Activity) Clan Of The Month

14 September 2018 - 5:47 PM

yea all clans need is other clans to kiss their asses rly shows how good u are


In Topic: The CD Zybez Love/Hate Thread

10 September 2018 - 5:14 AM

 

 

To put into perspective how bad the lack of proper moderation has gotten on these forums - about a half a dozen members from a certain clan doxed a member who spied on them and posted their dead family member's irl picture in a bunch of their avatars.  Those avatars were there for WEEKS and I'd wager many probably still are and you guys are so out of touch you have no idea that this even happened or that the avatars I'm referring to are even of this.


I can't honestly wrap my head around how you expect volunteer fansite forum staff to be aware of all the toxic bs clans are up to at any given time. If you needed something removing of that severity then the report system was there for everyone to use to let us know.
 

Want more proof of bias?  In 2015 someone in Cutthroat volunteered to judge the pkvots as did 3 or 4 other people from various teams.  The people on the judging committee (including a mod mentioned above) all agreed to vote against a certain team's video to ensure it would not win pkvots simply because none of them liked the team.  I don't like the team either but what a joke lol.  We didn't participate in anything else after that.


The PK staff are a separate entity from the CD staff as are any events they run. If planned vote manipulation like that occurred with a member of staff involved you should of reported it to the admins at the time instead of waiting 3 years to bring it up on a thread about clan discussion.

More? Moderators in the Zybez Discord actively kick people they don't agree with and basically refuse to moderate anything else.  I called a mod out on doing this once for not moderating (when that's literally his title) and he got angry and kicked me.  When I explained he could lose his rank for what he did he got so scared that he deleted all the messages he had posted in the discord.  You can check the server audit logs from 6/29 for spoonheb if you think I'm wrong.


My bet is when you "called a mod out" you were being belligerent and disrespectful in doing so, as I've seen in the past from you, which lead to you being kicked. If that wasn't the case feel free to bring it up with Ramu since they own the discord and they'd be able to look into things like that but knowing you and spoonheb I'm inclined to believe they did the right thing.
 

Good riddance to this website honestly.


Grow up, not every decision that went against you was a personal attack. I'd like to think that in time people like you recognise all the good this site did for the clan scene instead of blaming it for all the problems clans created for themselves. I hope clans find somewhere else to settle like Sharkbrew, your subreddit, the new rsc or whatever it may be so that somebody else can have fun having to deal with all your mess.

 

 

I can certainly expect more than halfassed moderation.  This website used to run much better because the admins took a direct interest in the game that the website revolved around.  Whether they were involved in clans or not they were active on here and interacted with people daily.  Over the last year I visited admin profiles many times and they'd be gone for weeks at a time sometimes.  At least part of why Zybez grew is because it was managed very well and so it gained trust as a neutral place where clans could interact with each other.  If staff have retired or gotten lazy then it is the website's job to address that and I think it's clear that at some point the people running the website stopped caring and that attitude filtered down from the top.

 

The staff are clearly not separate on this website, mods from that forum frequently floated over to CD and modded posts in here or in clan fights.  Many people even complained about this.  Like I said, I dislike the team that there was vote manipulation against so on a personal level I don't care that it happened.  It's not my job to fix it, but when you have hundreds of users dropping off a website and hundreds more posting every single month about bias then maybe (just maybe) there is an issue.  Clans are what they are, they are biased by nature, their whole purpose is to promote what benefits them.  It's unlikely people are going to call something out if it benefits them.

 

Your response to the discord thing is even more comical really.  You read my comments about it, and instantly decided that spoonheb must have been in the right.  So basically you looked at a situation without knowing much about it prejudged which side was right or wrong.  I cannot even think of a more textbook example of bias than the one you just demonstrated and it genuinely captures what's wrong with this website in just a few sentences.  I'm sure a mod deleting their own posts to hide evidence is a good sign that they did the right thing lmao.

 

I'm not under any impression that every decision was a personal attack.  The fact that you know literally nothing about me because we've never had an actual conversation would usually make a normal person take a step back but nah you just think you're right regardless.  Maybe you weren't biased, who knows but many mods here certainly here.  Hell, people used to get banned for talking about how jim leaked ips.  Lmao how ****ing nuts is that when the WHOLE community knows it happened, when he ADMITTED it happened, and people get silenced for talking about it.  Yikes.

 

This website did irreparable damage to the clan world in recent years.  The fact that it did such good pre eoc actually made the effects of the damage it did in OSRS much worse.  People viewed this place as a neutral hub for clans and so everyone participated in posting here.  When moderation became worse and worse more and more clans used that as a good excuse to drop out of the website entirely.  Think about that, for many members of many clans this was the only neutral setting where they could see opinions from other clans or members of other clans.  Because of the abusive moderation and allowing the website to fall apart you literally gave clans an excuse to insulate themselves and the result of that is that many members stopped expecting more from their leadership because they did not know that they should.  What you did allowed clans to hide in their own bubbles for months or even years in some cases with few events, bad events, or very little activity at all and for members to become brainwashed into believing that it was normal and that every clan was like that.  Clan leaders of massive clans like DF2, DI, and many others literally began telling their members that the clan world is dead and that this is just how it is and because of what you guys did with Zybez and those members no longer browsing here to see dissenting opinions, they bought it.  So when clans like that close, people don't keep clanning they simply quit because they believe that every clan is like that.  What's worse this pushed the 'team' **** that exists today where every pvp group is a team and not a clan.  Because members didn't have to expect anything from their leadership they just spread out into various teams to get what they wanted in terms of events or fights or whatever.  

 

I hope clans don't settle, I hope they browse everywhere.  I hope my members read my rival's forums, I hope they read smaller and bigger clan's forums and Twitter and Reddit and anywhere that might give them insight to what other clans are like because if there is ever something that another clan might be doing better I want them to know so they can demand that of Cutthroat.


In Topic: The CD Zybez Love/Hate Thread

08 September 2018 - 12:18 AM

 

You can't deny most of the staff overmoderating my stuff


I can and am.
 

I got topics closed for rules that don't even exist, or were modified


You didn't
 

I've been asked for extra proof to prove something happened but theres no proof it didn't (from the people who reported the topics)


The onus is on the person making the claim. Take a read here: <a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell"href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell" s_teapot"="">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
 

recently for example, a Leak topic of mine got deleted, but my enemies Leak topic only got closed, you say its the same, but closed its different from being deleted


I don't really want to rehash this silly debate but to sum up:

-Both Topics contained a leak which is against the rules.
-The object of moderating this kind of rule break is to remove the leak and prevent discussion.
-The two different ways the two seperate members of staff went about it achieved the goal above.
 

rules were never applied equally


We tried our best but with our rule set and the number of different staff members we have every little infraction wasn't going to get the exact same treatment.
 

all the staff has to say its I complain too much


You do.
 

I get you all don't get paid for moderating and don't have much time, then you should have recruited more decent people to the staff.


I'm not sure if you've read the CD boards but "decent people" are hard to come by in our game. Whether that's because those posters were drove away by us being too lenient and allowing too much clan world toxicity or whether we were too strict for the current clan world is another discussion entirely.
 

If zybez ever reopens (I hope you do), maybe more transparency from the staff and lighter moderation would be pleasing.


http://forums.zybez..../#entry17223936 and you should bring it up with senior admins whoever they may be over there.

 

 

Adenina has a point regarding how leaks are moderated.  Had the same situation happen where my clan posted a leak and Magick (a biased mod) deleted the video out of the post and then locked it but when another clan posted a leak the topic was locked but the video remained (which is the goal of posting leaks on zybez anyways).

 

**** like this is very clearly intentional whether you want to recognize that or not.  In regards to the bias being a result of whether posts are reported or not that's a fair point but shouldn't mods be out there reviewing most topics on their own anyways?  There's dozens of mods on Zybez and you each are assigned to only certain forums to monitor and given the massive slow down on Zybez it's actually not that difficult to moderate.  All of our own clan forums have hundreds of thousands of posts that we moderate with just a few ranks I don't see why Zybez can't be held to the same standard.  If mods weren't capable of consistently reviewing topics then additional mods or replacements mods needed to be promoted.

 

To put into perspective how bad the lack of proper moderation has gotten on these forums - about a half a dozen members from a certain clan doxed a member who spied on them and posted their dead family member's irl picture in a bunch of their avatars.  Those avatars were there for WEEKS and I'd wager many probably still are and you guys are so out of touch you have no idea that this even happened or that the avatars I'm referring to are even of this.  

 

Want more proof of bias?  In 2015 someone in Cutthroat volunteered to judge the pkvots as did 3 or 4 other people from various teams.  The people on the judging committee (including a mod mentioned above) all agreed to vote against a certain team's video to ensure it would not win pkvots simply because none of them liked the team.  I don't like the team either but what a joke lol.  We didn't participate in anything else after that.

 

More? Moderators in the Zybez Discord actively kick people they don't agree with and basically refuse to moderate anything else.  I called a mod out on doing this once for not moderating (when that's literally his title) and he got angry and kicked me.  When I explained he could lose his rank for what he did he got so scared that he deleted all the messages he had posted in the discord.  You can check the server audit logs from 6/29 for spoonheb if you think I'm wrong.

 

Good riddance to this website honestly.


In Topic: The CD Zybez Love/Hate Thread

06 September 2018 - 10:44 PM

The biggest problem with this forum has been biased moderation.  Don't know if I didn't notice it in the past or if it just became rampant recently.  My clan has had ups and downs over the last 3 years and whenever we're up moderators overwhelmingly let me and my members get away with anything on these forums, when tides turn and many clans are against is suddenly every word is moderated heavily.  I used to actually test Zybez on this by going back and quoting the same things I said a few months prior on new topics and many times my posts would be deleted, moderated, or I'd get a -1 meanwhile mods would +1 me whenever my clan was doing well.  This makes sense from a business standpoint, clans dominating used to post here a lot so it makes sense to reward those clans for their activity on the boards but it doesn't make for unbiased moderation and is the reason why clans become resentful of the website.

 

People like Adenina and Sp33dy are morons but moderators were way harsher on their posts than say Rev or VR's posts even though they were often saying the same things.


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