[Lvpersons25]

Zwitter, on Aug 13 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

Manga Scraps, on Aug 13 2007, 08:00 PM, said:

Zwitter, on Aug 13 2007, 06:26 PM, said:

I respect all the CL's of General Discussion..They have to choose between a good topic and bad..Which sometimes can lead to conflict. I love reading the posts..mostly the intellectual posts of Pele .. But hey.. They're all good.

Thanks man, its a tough job and I am glad this job is not in vain. I fell in love this board for all the same reasons not so long ago.

:) I just think that we could use different topics .. other than "What if Runescape was never here" and stuff like that..

While I agree, the problem is that's not the sort of thing we CL's can single-handedly fix. We can post as many new and different topics as we like, but in essence it needs to be a movement from the members towards new threads if you want more interesting topics.

[Cape]

Lvpersons25, on Aug 15 2007, 02:46 AM, said:

Zwitter, on Aug 13 2007, 11:49 PM, said:

Manga Scraps, on Aug 13 2007, 08:00 PM, said:

Zwitter, on Aug 13 2007, 06:26 PM, said:

I respect all the CL's of General Discussion..They have to choose between a good topic and bad..Which sometimes can lead to conflict. I love reading the posts..mostly the intellectual posts of Pele .. But hey.. They're all good.

Thanks man, its a tough job and I am glad this job is not in vain. I fell in love this board for all the same reasons not so long ago.

:) I just think that we could use different topics .. other than "What if Runescape was never here" and stuff like that..

While I agree, the problem is that's not the sort of thing we CL's can single-handedly fix. We can post as many new and different topics as we like, but in essence it needs to be a movement from the members towards new threads if you want more interesting topics.

Exactly, us members are the problem, we are the ones making these boring topics, and yet, we are also the solution. We need to post the new and different topics, not the CL's.

[Teddy]

Well, I don't think there's anything to do. I think my topics are rather creative...even if no one posts in them

[Jacnoc]

It's where I post the most.
Probably because there are a lot of good topics in General Discussion.

[Blenders]

GD is one of my favorite RSC forums. But alot of duplicate topics hang around (every nomination for the last GOTM I had seen before). Some good new topics comming though. Some people are turned off by longer topics and some good discussion go amiss because of that. Maybe you could encourage people who like to post extensively on a subject to also write a summary seperate from the rest summing up all of their other paragraphs for the poster on the go.

[Five Aces]

Sadly, whenever I come in here I look at most of the discussions and decide they're crap. Half of them are rants where some nut gets angry about something... Usually because the way they've chosen to play the game differs from the way someone else has decided to play the game, and they feel the other person has an unfair disadvantage as a result.

On top of that I find the quality of responses utterly depressing. It's a shame that most of the decent replies I see are attached to a purple, red, or green pip.

The worst is when I find a topic that looks interesting, and I decide to post in it, but when I do so I find that most of the replies comprise of a sentence agreeing or disagreeing with the topic starter, but don't bring anything else to the table. This is sometimes due to the topic starter making their original post too aggressive (in which case people who think otherwise steer clear), or the people replying are just lazy gits. On top of this, any reply I make is lost in the sea of one-liners, and nobody ever takes me up in discussion.

To sum it up, I find the contents of the board boring. The topics, by and large, seem uninspired, and the replies are even worse. This is, of course, not the fault of the leaders of the board, but you asked me how I viewed the board.

[Her Skill]

This is a great forum really, always a Discussion to post in.

[Pker Link0]

Too many gold-farmer topics.

:)

[Phoenom]

Besides the obvious "there aren't enough unique topics", I think Five Aces sums it up quite nicely, even if he didn't mean to.

Five Aces, on Aug 29 2007, 10:22 AM, said:

On top of this, any reply I make is lost in the sea of one-liners, and nobody ever takes me up in discussion.

This is what I mean. When I take the effort to make a reply because I want a discussion with either the topic starter or somebody else on the topic [I'm not fussy you know], and the next post is "I agree", and I get blatantly ignored, I just get ignored. I spend 10+ minutes replying to a topic and hoping for discussion, but I get ignored, because everybody just replies to the topic starter and ignores other people.

So why should I bother to write a reply to a topic when nobody replies to me? I don't reply for ranks or ratings; I reply for a discussion, and I find it sad that the discussion's being sapped out of this forum because people only reply to the topic starter.

[anselhelm]

I would recommend that we need moderators to actively delete one line responses or cut down on people who quote peoples' arguments line by line in order to flame them. There is a sensible and defendable amount of mature and level-headed debate that goes on, but there is equally as much bashing and flaming by people with very arrogant natures. Maybe this goes hand in hand with some of the younger players of RS in general, but as a former moderator myself of technical forums, it can be brought under control if a reporting systems is enforced (and made clear to all) to report breaches of general netiquette.

That's how I see it at least.

[Ecolab]

anselhelm, on Sep 4 2007, 12:48 PM, said:

I would recommend that we need moderators to actively delete one line responses or cut down on people who quote peoples' arguments line by line in order to flame them. There is a sensible and defendable amount of mature and level-headed debate that goes on, but there is equally as much bashing and flaming by people with very arrogant natures. Maybe this goes hand in hand with some of the younger players of RS in general, but as a former moderator myself of technical forums, it can be brought under control if a reporting systems is enforced (and made clear to all) to report breaches of general netiquette.

That's how I see it at least.

There is a report button. Also, we Cls try to keep GD clean, but sometimes we simply aren't on. We will try our best to clear the spam, but there will always be a few missed one-liners here and there.

[Del Rocks]

I know that Serious Discussion was horribly inactive, but I do miss it; it was actually full of good posts and thoughts. I wish it could be brought back, and even if it's not active, still, it'll be a nice subforum of General Discussion.

[A burger]

I think the General Discussion is fine, but I think people need to stop making a title under the main title for the page that's always a question, like:

"Autoers"
are they really bad?

It makes it sound like one of those talk shows like Oprah or something like that. Really annoys me lol, but that's just me.

[Pm Andrew]

Personally, I believe its a great place for General Discussion tbh.

[Rarez]

alot of stupid and dumb posts.

[THOMAS]

Here is my suggestion:
I see a LOT of topics that have the lovely multi-mod reply informing the user that they are breaking GD rules and encouraging them to read them. This is well and good, but I'm guessing it is a bit of a turn off for users to repost when they honestly have no idea what they did wrong.

There are a fair bit of bad topics here but not SO MANY that you can't make a reply to each as to why their thread got locked.

So simply put:
Make personal replies when closing topics explaining in a line or so why the topic isn't conforming.

This post has been edited by Tmal34: 07 October 2007 - 10:49 AM

[Mod-Spax]

I love this forum because i can discuss views with fellow players :)

Bring back DOTW!

[Manga]

Tmal34, on Oct 7 2007, 12:45 PM, said:

Here is my suggestion:
I see a LOT of topics that have the lovely multi-mod reply informing the user that they are breaking GD rules and encouraging them to read them. This is well and good, but I'm guessing it is a bit of a turn off for users to repost when they honestly have no idea what they did wrong.

There are a fair bit of bad topics here but not SO MANY that you can't make a reply to each as to why their thread got locked.

So simply put:
Make personal replies when closing topics explaining in a line or so why the topic isn't conforming.

Well if they feel it is unfair they could always PM me or if they don't trust my opinion, another CL. I try to personally reply to every topic but I usually just multi- mod the ones that are easily answered by reading the rules.

[THOMAS]

Manga Scraps, on Oct 7 2007, 07:19 PM, said:

Well if they feel it is unfair they could always PM me or if they don't trust my opinion, another CL. I try to personally reply to every topic but I usually just multi- mod the ones that are easily answered by reading the rules.

Sure I can see your logic, but from a point of view of someone who hasn't had one locked, all I see is a bunch of topics that are multimodded. It seems to me like perhaps 1/10 has a closing message with it that is personalized.

I understand that members should be expected to read the rules, and shouldn't be spoon fed the right answers, but in this case I think the most common situation is a newer member to General Discussion coming to make a post that they have thought about and finding out that it breaks the rules. Instead of reading the rules they get frustrated and end up leaving GD to find a different section that is more welcoming I guess.

I think you guys as CLs and mods do a great job, but by personalizing your replies you are taking a total of ONE extra minute per thread to completely change the image from kind of a robotic approach to a warm, welcoming one that invites people to improve upon their thread and try again.

I know if I were knew I would have different opinions when I heard:
-This breaks the rules, read them.
-This topic doesn't offer enough discussion. You are asking a question that is basically yes or no and we are looking for a bit more than that here in GD. Try a topic that doesn't restrict posters so much. Good luck!

The 2nd one took me like 30 seconds to type and in my opinion would definitely cause the poster to try again in comparison to the multimodded version.

[doomoo]

Browing the gen.discussion forum - I have seen most of the topics are rants, perhaps a sub-forum could be opend up for these 'rants' instead of them taking up a lot of space in this forum.