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#1 Kill_Kill110

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:23 PM

Curious, what are everybody's views on the current state of the clan world and how it got to its current position?
Lack of new members?
Skilling too tempting with how easy its becoming?

Duriel321?

Has the clan world gotten too aggressive in response to trying to keep their members active and engaged?

Thoughts/comments/flames?
 


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#2 Gladias

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:40 PM

Rot is and will always be #1

Anyone else is irrelevant
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#3 D96

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:07 PM

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Rot is and will always be #1

Anyone else is irrelevant

 

How can anyone else be irrelevant if without anyone else there's no clan world for you to kill?  :lmao:


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#4 Howl

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:27 PM

Pretty sad to see the clan world dwindling while the game is growing as a whole, but the clan world has been "dying" since 2007. It'll always be around in some form, just not to the extent that it was/could be.

 

I think the people who used to populate the clan world are both too busy and don't want to deal with ****.

 

Also, it's sad to see the majority of the clan fight posts be pking trips.


Edited by Howl, 06 June 2018 - 08:28 PM.

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#5 jajathroat

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:28 PM

cant w8 for the next dox war


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Nop. That is in the discord picture dump from today. We collect pictures to warn members on what can how they can improve, in this case he was in mystic and not switching to his tank gear and kept smiting.

 

Still does not erase the fact you got bullied into single today for the 2nd time.


#6 Itaichimaru

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:43 PM

RoT is the clan world and I'd say we're doing fine. 


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#7 Trainer Red

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:57 PM

CT is slowly expanding into f2p, hopefully that brings more action to everyone else!


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#8 Dox17

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:02 PM

could be a lot better. hoping mobile brings in lots of fresh faces


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#9 S3NS3S

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:14 PM

clan world be better if there was another clan to rival rot with another sick crash war. now its boring lol. 


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#10 Mug Lmfao

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:21 PM

meh, get what action u can and enjoy it.


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#11 unbiased observer

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:41 PM

clan world be better if there was another clan to rival rot with another sick crash war. now its boring lol. 

pretty much this, even af at their lowest was twice as good as di at their best


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#12 Stl Arrow

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 09:47 PM

This may be the worst point its been tbh. Every wildy fight lasts 5mins, no CWA action with rival clans happen, & excuses after excuses are given for reasons not to fight.

 

There barely is still a clan world at this point lmao


If people weren't so addicted to the game then even more of the clan world community would be gone.


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#13 KingTheGreat

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:02 PM

This may be the worst point its been tbh. Every wildy fight lasts 5mins, no CWA action with rival clans happen, & excuses after excuses are given for reasons not to fight.

 

There barely is still a clan world at this point lmao


If people weren't so addicted to the game then even more of the clan world community would be gone.

Pretty much this and the fact that people will try so hard to make this game unenjoyable for others or take it out of game.  :woeh:


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#14 Kingg Gucci

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:12 PM

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#15 Christy

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:22 PM

This may be the worst point its been tbh. Every wildy fight lasts 5mins, no CWA action with rival clans happen, & excuses after excuses are given for reasons not to fight.

 

There barely is still a clan world at this point lmao


If people weren't so addicted to the game then even more of the clan world community would be gone.

 

Sorry, but I completely disagree.  Nothing directed at you personally but I feel a lot of clan's leaderships are just lazy.  If the clan world feels dead then you're doing something wrong.  

 

Cutthroat is probably out 6-8 hours a day and while we may encounter an occasional dead wilderness our days are for the most part action packed.  A typical day for us is something like:

  • Aussie pk anywhere from 2-7 AM EST - this usually involves scrapping with streamers, CL, or Ibliys (open cc that can pull ~20-30ish on good nights)
  • If we have a midday event then someone will usually host a single pk or a smallman around 11 AM EST
  • Midday Event (3-6 EST) usually something like an hour capped fight, or single spells, or CWA (RSB, F2P, P2P)
  • Late EST PK (~8 EST) usually just a hop around trip clearing out caves

 

Add some community events, pvm competitions, or other prize based activities and it's pretty much a packed schedule.  I'll grant that there are less clans so in terms of wilderness you might scrap with the same people quite a bit but you can definitely put some effort in to set up some fun/interesting events.  Cutthroat has pretty much offered to AC for just about anyone.  I think saying 'clan world is dead' is just kind of a cop out for lazy leadership or leadership that has maybe made mistakes and gotten into the wrong rivalries or maybe too many rivalries.  Not saying everything is always perfect in Cutthroat and that we never find a day when wildy is dead but things actually feel much more active this summer than they did this time last year.  


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#16 .Ravose.

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:31 PM

Honestly? This is one of the worst states the clan world has been in and I have little faith in the clan world being able to bounce back due to lack of care from both Jagex towards clans/clan communities, or even with us as the current gamers in the clan world. I have been around since 06, watching, observing up until 08, and right now, the type of community we have built for others to even consider joining: is disgusting. Some of us are good people, able to help others integrate into communities, adapt to the F2P (or P2P) way of life, but for the majority of others; we have created this community where egotistic, borderline obsessive egos, have taken hindsight and thus the negativity some have caused have turned many others, and I mean a lot of players, away from the potential possibility in joining a clan. To be even more critical, I think at this point those not involved in our type of competitive community would prefer joining a PvM and Social clan, rather than a PvP/competitive one.

 

My view might be harsh and some might take it whatever way they want, but it's the truth. Some of us as a collective unit have turned what was potentially a nostalgic opportunity in regards to the clanning community, into a place where there will be nothing of nostalgia or a clanning community in the coming years. To steer away from the harshness of the truth, we as players can only do so much to make better of what is left. Can we broaden people's perspectives and try to get people to give clanning a shot - simply, yes. But the question is whether or not we care enough, or have the actual ability to do so. Most of us are older, with responsibilities, or simply do not care enough anymore. Personally, I have moved onto other games, but I feel like if we all had or have the time to put a better outlook on our clan world, we would be able to develop an influx of people. If we were to have more support from Jagex, let's say, other than the [overdue] Jagex Cup and had some spotlight on the competitiveness whether P2P or F2P, people would have a better view and be instantly attracted. If we as players were to better support what we play, in terms of the egos, negativity, whatever, then maybe others wouldn't be so cautious in joining our community.

 

Tl;dr - a community is what it is made of. From administration to the people within.


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#17 Ace

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:00 PM

It's a state of mind at this point.

 

Yeah, we have less clans now, and yes those clans that are open have less activity now, but for the most part you can make activity if you really desire to. I don't think the desire is there anymore though. The clanning community itself feels almost unwelcoming these days and for a lot of people fights and pk trips seem like some sort of chore that people only put themselves through every so often so they can keep their status as a pvp clan.


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#18 Fremennik

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:10 PM

1) clanning is toxic

2) The cycle is broken

 

Their isn't enough flow of new and old people to keep the clan world healthy. The gap between clans grows each month. Rot has taken #1 and literally some sort of cataclysmic inner clan meltdown would be the only thing that could dethrone them. Then you have Rev and CT and JaJa (puppet masters) but after that the gap grows so much that it's hard to find action that is close to your clans level. Generally fights seem to be incredibly one sided once you look past the smoke and mirrors.

 

tl;dr not enough clans to feed off of to grow yours/not enough clans or members to have a true rival (closest thing to true rivalry is rev/cutthroat)


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#19 knight_cripp

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:18 PM

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#20 Stl Arrow

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:24 PM

 

This may be the worst point its been tbh. Every wildy fight lasts 5mins, no CWA action with rival clans happen, & excuses after excuses are given for reasons not to fight.

 

There barely is still a clan world at this point lmao


If people weren't so addicted to the game then even more of the clan world community would be gone.

 

Sorry, but I completely disagree.  Nothing directed at you personally but I feel a lot of clan's leaderships are just lazy.  If the clan world feels dead then you're doing something wrong.  

 

Cutthroat is probably out 6-8 hours a day and while we may encounter an occasional dead wilderness our days are for the most part action packed.  A typical day for us is something like:

  • Aussie pk anywhere from 2-7 AM EST - this usually involves scrapping with streamers, CL, or Ibliys (open cc that can pull ~20-30ish on good nights)
  • If we have a midday event then someone will usually host a single pk or a smallman around 11 AM EST
  • Midday Event (3-6 EST) usually something like an hour capped fight, or single spells, or CWA (RSB, F2P, P2P)
  • Late EST PK (~8 EST) usually just a hop around trip clearing out caves

 

Add some community events, pvm competitions, or other prize based activities and it's pretty much a packed schedule.  I'll grant that there are less clans so in terms of wilderness you might scrap with the same people quite a bit but you can definitely put some effort in to set up some fun/interesting events.  Cutthroat has pretty much offered to AC for just about anyone.  I think saying 'clan world is dead' is just kind of a cop out for lazy leadership or leadership that has maybe made mistakes and gotten into the wrong rivalries or maybe too many rivalries.  Not saying everything is always perfect in Cutthroat and that we never find a day when wildy is dead but things actually feel much more active this summer than they did this time last year.  

At the end of the day like you said its just lazy leadership. People get bored of doing the same thing everyday, aka walking around revs and killing a few teams here and there and tellying out from clans larger then them. Ive always admired CT because you guys do things to change up the typical day in a PvP based clan by doing community oriented things to either gain money or build an actual core community. Problem is your the ones only really doing that consistently & people not a part of ur clan obviously don't get the same enjoyment you do, which makes my point more valid as far as how the state of the clan world really is at its worst rn. Just because you go out as much as you say doesn't mean you always have enjoyable scraps especially clans in crashwars with others. You say it seems more active this summer compared to last because CT is in a better state now then they were a year prior to now for many different reasons, which makes sense for you to think that, but the fact that you guys are more active & are actually doing good doesnt mean the clanworld still isnt dead. Again idk if everything im saying is accurate as I don't fight with or against your clan ever but from an outsiders PoV that's just how I see it.

 

At this point I feel like being in strictly a community clan would be more entertaining then a PvP based one if surrounded by the right people, but that's just me.


Edited by Stl Arrow, 07 June 2018 - 01:10 AM.

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