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#1 Pure Staker

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 04:32 PM

Hey guys. I'm slowly approaching the 200k tokens needed for my first chaotic.
Which one is best, and for what?
I enjoy slayer (16m exp), bossing (I bandos occasionally, and would solo bandos with whatever I get, I don't TDS, and I DKS :D), I will also be getting 85 dungeoneering for frosts.

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#2 CakesAreFries

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 04:49 PM

Bossing -> Depends on boss. Armadyl/Saradomin/Nex would make a strong case for crossbow, longsword would be another good choice for this.
Bandos solo->Rapier
Don't TDS->One reason to not get maul then
DKS->No clue.
Frost->Rapier and CLS are sort of tied here because of the cannon. A higher bonus means that the CLS will give the cannon more accuracy. The rapier will most likely deal more damage though do to speed (DPS).

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 04:52 PM

Rapier.

It's good for slaying, will do well at pretty much any GWD boss, good at DKs and it's amazing at frost dragons.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 04:53 PM

View PostCakesAreLies, on 08 April 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Bossing -> Depends on boss. Armadyl/Saradomin/Nex would make a strong case for crossbow, longsword would be another good choice for this.
Bandos solo->Rapier
Don't TDS->One reason to not get maul then
DKS->No clue.
Frost->Rapier and CLS are sort of tied here because of the cannon. A higher bonus means that the CLS will give the cannon more accuracy. The rapier will most likely deal more damage though do to speed (DPS).

Basicly, you gonna get 15 other people saying what cakes said. For dks i heard rapier is the best, altough cls would mean higher cannon hits (especially since your cannon does so big percentage of damage there), you gonna keep switching weapons anyway.

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 05:40 PM

Bossing CLS is a lot more useful, however if you are a slayer fanatic then obviously the rapier would be better so really depends which is more important. Had similar argument with myself.

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 07:55 PM

Rapier, it's realisticly better than the others in most situations

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:04 PM

Rapier hands down, especially for your case. With overloads and turmoil, I would say a rapier is more efficient than anything people use a CLS for. (mostly bosses)

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#8 Selena Gomez Twin

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:13 PM

View Postzoth01, on 08 April 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

View PostCakesAreLies, on 08 April 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

Bossing -> Depends on boss. Armadyl/Saradomin/Nex would make a strong case for crossbow, longsword would be another good choice for this.
Bandos solo->Rapier
Don't TDS->One reason to not get maul then
DKS->No clue.
Frost->Rapier and CLS are sort of tied here because of the cannon. A higher bonus means that the CLS will give the cannon more accuracy. The rapier will most likely deal more damage though do to speed (DPS).

Basicly, you gonna get 15 other people saying what cakes said. For dks i heard rapier is the best, altough cls would mean higher cannon hits (especially since your cannon does so big percentage of damage there), you gonna keep switching weapons anyway.


Frost drags are weak to stab attacks like all dragons, even with cannon, rapier is better because of that fact.  You'll end up killing them way faster with rapier then with CLS
And even with rapier, your cannon will still outhit what a yak can send back.  Often I have to leave my cannon unloaded and just kill drags with my rapier because it's too fast.  When that happens, the rapier is easily wayyyy better then cls.  I don't know about dk's, but in everything else listed, I'd say rapier is better.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:14 PM

I heard that the Rapier is better than CLS at Nex, is that true :o
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:36 PM

View PostRofldonutz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I heard that the Rapier is better than CLS at Nex, is that true :o
From the teams I joined for nex, I think the maul is best there, but don't take my word for it.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:49 PM

View Posttwin suns 17, on 08 April 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

View PostRofldonutz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I heard that the Rapier is better than CLS at Nex, is that true :o
From the teams I joined for nex, I think the maul is best there, but don't take my word for it.
Most teams use range with void/armadyl and ruby (e) bolts (90% of the time). Dragon claws are used on the first stage, and diamond (e) bolts are used on the last stage.

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#12 BABA_BO0EY

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:57 PM

I have LS... its a bit slow but it hits so consistently, especially with D defender. Stab against frost drags kills them very fast as well.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:58 PM

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:59 PM

View PostGladz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View Posttwin suns 17, on 08 April 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

View PostRofldonutz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I heard that the Rapier is better than CLS at Nex, is that true :o
From the teams I joined for nex, I think the maul is best there, but don't take my word for it.
Most teams use range with void/armadyl and ruby (e) bolts (90% of the time). Dragon claws are used on the first stage, and diamond (e) bolts are used on the last stage.


I have to disagree in part and agree in part. When I stated maul, my meaning was in relation to the 3rd stage, the blood one.  Obviously the methodolgy is d claw spec at the start.  Nowhere did I say you would use maul throughout, I was just stateing that when picking a melee weapon, I'd choose maul over rapier at Nex.  The part I disagree with is using ruby because of the capped hit.  My teams use Diamond(e) throughout because it can hit pretty much close to 500 very often, and it hits much more often because of the spec.  We find that we can last an extra kill or 2 using diamond(e) over ruby(e).  I believe one of the main established teams also use pure diamond(e) throughout though I don't remember their name at the moment.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 12:03 AM

View Posttwin suns 17, on 08 April 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

View PostGladz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View Posttwin suns 17, on 08 April 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

View PostRofldonutz, on 08 April 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

I heard that the Rapier is better than CLS at Nex, is that true :o
From the teams I joined for nex, I think the maul is best there, but don't take my word for it.
Most teams use range with void/armadyl and ruby (e) bolts (90% of the time). Dragon claws are used on the first stage, and diamond (e) bolts are used on the last stage.


I have to disagree in part and agree in part. When I stated maul, my meaning was in relation to the 3rd stage, the blood one.  Obviously the methodolgy is d claw spec at the start.  Nowhere did I say you would use maul throughout, I was just stateing that when picking a melee weapon, I'd choose maul over rapier at Nex.  The part I disagree with is using ruby because of the capped hit.  My teams use Diamond(e) throughout because it can hit pretty much close to 500 very often, and it hits much more often because of the spec.  We find that we can last an extra kill or 2 using diamond(e) over ruby(e).  I believe one of the main established teams also use pure diamond(e) throughout though I don't remember their name at the moment.
Yes, we (PID) used to use that method, but we've found this method to be more efficient. Seeing as banking takes 3-5 minutes, kills per trip isn't that big of an issue. Besides, you could also see using ruby bolts (e) as killing nex faster, which essentially means taking less damage from the actual boss itself.

I'm not sure if you've heard of PID, but maybe you've heard of Batman_6125 or Legendaryjoh? Two very popular members on RSC who often nex.

Any who, sorry to get so off-topic! Continue with the debate about chaotics.  :no:

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 12:07 AM

Rapier is the best overall
Maul is the best for pking

Rapier would be the best one to get as your first. It's amazing.

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 12:08 AM

Just go for broke and get ccb rapier and maul

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 03:57 AM

If you are going to slay and frost a lot, I think cr would be the best option for you

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 04:28 AM

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I believe you already use your extremes/overloads during slayer (don't have a huge stock of potions?), so yeah get that Rapier!

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Posted 09 April 2011 - 05:11 AM

Can't really comment on the other Chaotic, but I have the Rapier, and it's awesome  :no:
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