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#1 Arnaldo

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:20 PM

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School staffs face tough questions on bullying
By DENISE LAVOIE, AP
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BOSTON — School officials in western Massachusetts didn't follow all the anti-bullying advice they were given months before a harassed freshman girl committed suicide, according to a consultant who offered the tips.

Barbara Coloroso said she consulted with parents and administrators months before 15-year-old Phoebe Prince hanged herself in January. Authorities say she endured months of verbal assaults and threats, mostly in school and in person, although some of the bullying occurred on Facebook and in other electronic forms.

"The questions to ask are: Did they follow their own rules and did they keep Phoebe safe? Obviously not. And, did they deal effectively with the bullies? Obviously not," Coloroso told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Nine fellow students face charges in connection with the girl's death, including two teen boys charged with statutory rape and a clique of girls charged with stalking, criminal harassment and violating Phoebe's civil rights. School officials won't be charged, even though authorities say they knew about the bullying.

School officials have not returned messages left by The Associated Press.

Northwestern District Attorney Elizabeth Scheibel, who announced the charges Monday, said the events that occurred between September and Phoebe's death Jan. 14 were "the culmination of a nearly three-month campaign of verbally assaultive behavior and threats of physical harm."

Scheibel said the case is still under investigation and that one other person could be charged. It's unknown whether the teens who have been charged have attorneys.

Schiebel refused to discuss the circumstances of the rape charges.

No school officials are being charged because they had "a lack of understanding of harassment associated with teen dating relationships," and the school's code of conduct was interpreted and enforced in an "inconsistent" way, Scheibel said.

"Nevertheless, the actions — or inactions — of some adults at the school are troublesome," she said.

Phoebe was born in Bedford, England and moved to County Clare, Ireland, when she was 2. She moved last summer to South Hadley because the family had relatives there.

Her family has since moved away and could not immediately be located for comment.

(This version DELETES old comments from an anti-bullying expert that were incorrectly attributed to the AP.)

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Stuff like this really saddens me.  Over the years I have really changed the way I act towards bullies.  I used to just sit there, and watch others get bullied being too scared to bring the attention upon myself.  However, today I really try to make an effort to stick up for anyone when they are getting mistreated like this.  I think it is important to understand people do take things differently, and some people cannot take much harassment before they resort to measures like she did.  That is why it is best to follow the golden rule: To treat everyone how you would like to be treated.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:42 PM

talked about this in english class today [doing article response], not really that much of a surprise. bullying is a problem with youth these days, and it can in fact, bring people towards harming themselves, or even killing themselves. i'm not saying that they should be prosecuted under the law for attempted murder, even if them being "mean" led towards it; I just think it's a very large jump from bullying -> persuading someone to kill themselves.

the other charges should be taken more seriously though [not that attempted murder shouldn't be]; rape, civil rights violations [lmfao], and others as well.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:43 PM

This happens in every country, and its sad.

If you get bullied just fight back(even if they just call you names. just smack them) when youre not strong, just hit them with a chair. Losing a fight aint a shame it will gain you respect. And eventually they will leave you alone.
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:55 PM

View Postr0bertp, on 30 March 2010 - 01:43 PM, said:

This happens in every country, and its sad.

If you get bullied just fight back(even if they just call you names. just smack them) when youre not strong, just hit them with a chair. Losing a fight aint a shame it will gain you respect. And eventually they will leave you alone.

It is no surprise to me that someone who promotes violent revenge doesn't know how to read.

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 02:09 PM

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    If you get bullied just fight back(even if they just call you names. just smack them) when youre not strong, just hit them with a chair. Losing a fight aint a shame it will gain you respect. And eventually they will leave you alone.

    Sometimes works, sometimes the bully gets his friends together and tries to stab you. Could go either way.

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 02:48 PM

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    Nine fellow students face charges in connection with the girl's death, including two teen boys charged with statutory rape and a clique of girls charged with stalking, criminal harassment and violating Phoebe's civil rights. School officials won't be charged, even though authorities say they knew about the bullying.
    I would say this is worse than "bullying".
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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 03:07 PM

    View Post~Rekhyt Sama~, on 30 March 2010 - 02:48 PM, said:

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    Nine fellow students face charges in connection with the girl's death, including two teen boys charged with statutory rape and a clique of girls charged with stalking, criminal harassment and violating Phoebe's civil rights. School officials won't be charged, even though authorities say they knew about the bullying.
    I would say this is worse than "bullying".

    Mmh, and I do like how the article implies it is the teachers at fault for ignoring anti-bullying advice. There's very little a teacher can do to stop bullying; at best it moves out of school and into the streets. If this escalated to rape, then I somehow doubt talking to the class about how bullying is wrong would have helped the situation.

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 03:12 PM

    most teachers do. I remember in 10th grade my classmates were calling me that chink who couldn't see and asked me the question "Can you see?" pissed me off so much. My counselor even emailed by teacher and she didn't do squat!

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 03:22 PM

    View PostKaringKorean, on 30 March 2010 - 03:12 PM, said:

    most teachers do. I remember in 10th grade my classmates were calling me that chink who couldn't see and asked me the question "Can you see?" pissed me off so much. My counselor even emailed by teacher and she didn't do squat!

    Well in the cases that they don't they should.  I know that they should not be responsible for being some kind of peer mediator, but if they are suspicious of someone being depressed it could save someones life by reporting it to the principal, guidance office, parents, ect... The real root of the problem is bullying itself though.  That is one of the few things in life that I am not sure will ever go away.

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 03:28 PM

    Bullying happened in my school, if i could back i'd have cracked some skulls

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    Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:07 PM

    They can charge a 17 y/o with stat. rape?

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    And at South Philadelphia High School, Asian students say they've endured relentless bullying and racial epithets by black students while school officials ignored their complaints.
    Haha I remember that crap. Dude that messed with me when I was a freshman ended up getting stabbed at lunch.
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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:47 AM

    Moving to America to start a new life only to have it end the worst way imaginable. That must be horrible for her parents. :-)

    This case has actually raised a debate here about introducing actual anti-bullying laws, currently there are only a set of guidelines to be followed by schools in this country.

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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:50 AM

    View PostAkspetsnaz, on 30 March 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:

    They can charge a 17 y/o with stat. rape?

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    And at South Philadelphia High School, Asian students say they've endured relentless bullying and racial epithets by black students while school officials ignored their complaints.
    Haha I remember that crap. Dude that messed with me when I was a freshman ended up getting stabbed at lunch.

    stat rape can happen until both are legal and consenting eighteen year olds. I think [at least in my state], there has to be a two year difference or less [16 + 18 year olds, something along those lines], for it to be legal. but it's different from state to state, so I wouldn't really know 100%.
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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:57 AM

    Bullying happens in all schools/colleges. Can't hold the teachers responsible for what happens on facebook or myspace or when the girl is walking home. However if it happened in the school premises, or they knew it was going on and had reached suicidal proportions, and still failed to act then they are responsible as teachers.

    I think ragging is largely ignored because it tends to be harmless and light.
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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:52 PM

    View Postbolshevik, on 31 March 2010 - 08:50 AM, said:

    stat rape can happen until both are legal and consenting eighteen year olds. I think [at least in my state], there has to be a two year difference or less [16 + 18 year olds, something along those lines], for it to be legal. but it's different from state to state, so I wouldn't really know 100%.
    Girl that killed herself (assuming...) was 15 so that's a two year difference. DA probably just being a female dog and throwing more extreme charges around for the media. But it doesn't make sense that if both parties are minors it's considered statutory rape because you aren't seriously gonna charge two people with raping each other.
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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 03:50 PM

    Just saw this on the news today again on a story about people saying hurtful things on the internet.  Apparently even now that she is dead, the bullies are still posting hurtful comments on her Facebook memorial page.  Just makes me sick.

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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:23 PM

    View PostLilmikee, on 30 March 2010 - 02:09 PM, said:

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    If you get bullied just fight back(even if they just call you names. just smack them) when youre not strong, just hit them with a chair. Losing a fight aint a shame it will gain you respect. And eventually they will leave you alone.

    Sometimes works, sometimes the bully gets his friends together and tries to stab you. Could go either way.

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    Correct. You can either step away, stay silent, and endure the pain with the hope that the bully will ceaser or you could fight back. Fighting back is a terrible option IMO.

    View PostMajingokulv4, on 31 March 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

    Just saw this on the news today again on a story about people saying hurtful things on the internet.  Apparently even now that she is dead, the bullies are still posting hurtful comments on her Facebook memorial page.  Just makes me sick.

    NBC made it worse by broadcasting the whole thing. Had they not broadcasted it, the trolls would have ceased to fight back (possible lack of comebacks). However, NBC just dropped a freighter of Gasoline on the whole situation.


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    NBC made it worse by broadcasting the whole thing. Had they not broadcasted it, the trolls would have ceased to fight back (possible lack of comebacks). However, NBC just dropped a freighter of Gasoline on the whole situation.

    We don't know that for sure.  What we do know though is that the public can be more aware of her story, and hopefully it can cause some bullies to think twice before they harrass others.  Either way her story should be heard.

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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:31 PM

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    NBC made it worse by broadcasting the whole thing. Had they not broadcasted it, the trolls would have ceased to fight back (possible lack of comebacks). However, NBC just dropped a freighter of Gasoline on the whole situation.

    We don't know that for sure.  What we do know though is that the public can be more aware of her story, and hopefully it can cause some bullies to think twice before they harrass others.  Either way her story should be heard.

    Trust me. I joined her facebook group about 2 days after she had committed suicide. It had around 250 people in it, and at 5:28 PST, it's approaching 31,000. Most of these people are the ones that harass and bully in public and in private. Heck, the first 3 pages of user submitted posts are all why the bullied who die should "go to hell".

    Posting her story in a positive (meaning not bashing on her) and supporting her would be appropriate. Including 2 minutes of extra bashing against trolls just made the situation 10,000 times worse.


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    Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:33 PM

    bah bah bullies are bad yada yada

    i call it character building personally

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