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#1 User is offline   Ve Nosferatu

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:54 AM

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I already do really really well in pvp, but Im sure there are ways to improve my game. I get plenty of kills because of my high level in range, and my stupidity causing me to fight anyone down to my last food. But there are those few that get away, when I needed the ability to ko them. Any advice is welcomed, but here are a few in particular things im interested in hearing comments on.

Also, as soon as I get enough pks with decent pictures I will turn this into a hopefully permanent thread. I also have to figure out how to change the name of the thread xD. Please read the entire thing before you answer. And if you have an opinion, even if you think it will be of no help, TELL ME. Even if it isnt one of my questions. Im always up for learning.




Advice dealing with my gear:
So far:

View PostAnti Rob, on 09 February 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

you don't need to change your gear, but you wanna get 80+ strength or so


Advice on what strength level I should get before using r2h:
So far: See above quote ^
Advice on What strength level to get before using corrupt D-battle:
So far: NONE
Any advice on leveling any of my stats:
So far:

View PostPope_Smotage, on 09 February 2010 - 04:19 PM, said:

Keeping mage balanced with range is something I would recommend for any pker build regardless of whether they're main, zerker, tank, 1 def. The best way to maximize options and effectiveness regardless of current combat level.


Im putting this in two different spots because im getting the same information over and over.

I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT STAYING BALANCED, OR WEITHER OR NOT IM RANGED OR MELEE BASED
Ahem, Ill I want to know is what level the technique of swaping between ranged and 2h to KO people will be effective... Ie, as im ranging, if they get low hp, and I swap to rune 2h to ko but my max hit is only 20, then the entire swap is pointless because I hit 17 with ranged already. When would the slowness of swaping back from 2h to ranged be worth it. Please read this =\


Here are my current stats:
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My current f2p pking gear:
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My inventory when far enough away from the bank that I have time to bind them(And the levels I can attack):
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When I am dming, or closer to a bank, it is just an inventory full of swordies, sometimes with monk robes.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 11:56 AM

you don't need to change your gear, but you wanna get 80+ strength or so
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:17 PM

Thanks for avice. Whats the minimum for r2h, and dba, iyo.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:34 PM

i should do 99 str becouse there alot 80 str pures in f2p wi sould also do it with soulwars if i was you becouse you dont lvl hp then :) and its kinda fast @ high level

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:37 PM

Thanks for the advice. Im looking for more realistic, near time goals though. Of course one of my goals is 99 strength, ranged, and defense. But Im looking for near sited goals along the way. Your input is always apreciated though xD






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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:02 PM

Not a zerker, you're just a regular rune tank, and whilst those are effective in dms (armor on and off), I very much doubt the majority of your fights end up in death matches, so I would really recommend getting your strength up, at your combat at least 80+ (85+ recommended).
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:19 PM

Keeping mage balanced with range is something I would recommend for any pker build regardless of whether they're main, zerker, tank, 1 def. The best way to maximize options and effectiveness regardless of current combat level.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:24 PM

get high strength, have you tried asking ppl to fite no armor like in monks? Would help get you more ko's if you had high str.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:27 PM

To figure out whatever Str/Range level you should get, use this formula:

(Attack+Strength)/1.5=Range

That's how you calculate whether you're range based or not, so the only combat levels you would gain would be from HP.

So in this case, to match 92 range you would be able to get 78 strength and stay range based. From there just keep leveling up you range and adding strength levels accordingly, until you reach 99 Range with 88 Strength, then you can choose if you want to add on more strength levels or just pk from there.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:42 PM

View PostDube, on 09 February 2010 - 03:02 PM, said:

Not a zerker, you're just a regular rune tank, and whilst those are effective in dms (armor on and off), I very much doubt the majority of your fights end up in death matches, so I would really recommend getting your strength up, at your combat at least 80+ (85+ recommended).

Just curious but do you know the definition of zerker? And of course Im getting strength, thats why I made this topic. Although at least you did give me a number as to level of strength. Also, every match that I am given the oppurtunity to dm, I do. I just have a problem with people running, praying, etc.. Thanks for your input as to the level of strength I need though.

View PostAmigop, on 09 February 2010 - 04:27 PM, said:

To figure out whatever Str/Range level you should get, use this formula:

(Attack+Strength)/1.5=Range

That's how you calculate whether you're range based or not, so the only combat levels you would gain would be from HP.

So in this case, to match 92 range you would be able to get 78 strength and stay range based. From there just keep leveling up you range and adding strength levels accordingly, until you reach 99 Range with 88 Strength, then you can choose if you want to add on more strength levels or just pk from there.


Im not worried about staying ranged based. Im just worried about when the stregnth will become effective, like right now I hit 17 with ranged. I would have to hit much higher with strength in order for me to use it. If I dont hit high enough with 2h why even swap? Id just range. Im wondering, at 92 ranged, which strength levels hits high enough to effectivley range/2h swap. Thank you for your input though. Those things are good to know



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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:44 PM

I say you're best balancing your stats along the way, that means keeping:

1.5 * (range level) = (attack level) + (strength level)


Which would mean:

1.5 * 92 = 60 + X
138 = 60 + X
-60 _ -60
X = 78


With 92 range, get 78 strength to be balanced. Your strength level should be suitable for any weapon.
For every range level you get, you'll need to raise your strength level by 1.5 levels.
(You know, for 93 range, get 79 strength, for 94 range, get 81 strength... blah blah).

As for magic, I don't see any reason raising it since you'll be f2p pking.

That's about it. Gear is fine.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:18 PM

View PostDelif3d, on 10 February 2010 - 02:44 PM, said:

I say you're best balancing your stats along the way, that means keeping:

1.5 * (range level) = (attack level) + (strength level)


Which would mean:

1.5 * 92 = 60 + X
138 = 60 + X
-60 _ -60
X = 78


With 92 range, get 78 strength to be balanced. Your strength level should be suitable for any weapon.
For every range level you get, you'll need to raise your strength level by 1.5 levels.
(You know, for 93 range, get 79 strength, for 94 range, get 81 strength... blah blah).

As for magic, I don't see any reason raising it since you'll be f2p pking.

That's about it. Gear is fine.




Not to make an example out of Delif3d but im always getting this responce. Really Im not just saying this to you, and I hate i used you for an example, I am in no way trying to be an ass. I promise =\

I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT STAYING BALANCED, OR WEITHER OR NOT IM RANGED OR MELEE BASED
Ahem, all I want to know is what level the technique of swaping between ranged and 2h to KO people will be effective... Ie, as im ranging, if they get low hp, and I swap to rune 2h to ko but my max hit is only 20, then the entire swap is pointless because I hit 17 with ranged already. When would the slowness of swaping back from 2h to ranged be worth it. Please read this =\
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 01:48 PM

At 80 str w/ 31 pry and str pot you can hit 29 w/ corr dba. That would be plenty high to start with.
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 02:15 PM

well i'd say just gte about 85 strength and itll work out, at 85 str thats like 27's with 2h which will help you alot
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 04:45 PM

Can you really call yourself a zerker without any (barely) any of the bonuses they were originally desgined for? I guess you could be a f2p rune pure, but 68 strength at your combat is pitiful, which is why I went with the term "Rune Tank"..Also, I wasn't saying that you ran from death matches, but your opponents probably often do.

Just go for a strength level that has a nice good hit with rune 2h, 80+ (26 2h), 85 - 27 2h, 90 - 29 2h, etc.

EDIT: Also the reason people are suggesting for you to get balanced range/strength is because, getting past a certain level would increase your combat much higher then it currently is (4-5 if you get 90+ strength), so the best option WOULD be to get balanced stats, without gaining any combat levels. 78 strength does hit 25 with 2h as well.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 09:31 AM

Thanks for the two answers giving me an actual number for both weps. Looks like 80 is my goal.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 10:16 AM

Get 96 ranged to hit 18's with Adamant Arrows. Keep strength as low as possible, but max out your combat level.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 10:21 AM

Thanks for the advice. Nice to see a ranged lover <3 haha
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