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#1 User is offline   bolshevik

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 02:02 AM

There is always that one element in life that some people may never take well, it's a facet that is accustomed to many different ways of life and is essential in that sense as well. What I'm speaking of, is change. It's a part of life that happens in every aspect, sometimes multiple times over a short period of time. This comes into play in Runescape with the addition of new updates, many of them being agreeable in some senses, and not so much in others. Sometimes these changes can come such a shock to people that it causes them to be enraged [in a sense], and even to the point where they quit. Change isn't something that people take well, as evident in many changes on here [Zybez/RSC], as well as Runescape period.

How do you take change? When something comes along that you don't like, do you completely stop and just give up, or do you try and bare through it? Change isn't easy for everyone, least of all a place like the internet.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 03:28 AM

I step back, watch it happen from afar and I laugh.

I have little difficulty adapting to change, mainly because there are only a few things in this world that I care about. Petty things change all the time. But I guess I understand it isn't so easy for some people. Insurance and stability are things you get used to in due time, so when something starts eating away at what you thought was stabile and quasi-permanent, you get upset. And sometimes it's good to object to change. If nobody opposes change, change goes unchecked. If an authoritarian government is slowly taking form, you better speak up and fight the change. But in most cases, change is necessary and unstoppable. In other words: pick your battles. Some things will change whether you like it or not, regardless of how many oppose it. Some other things can be reversed and undone, if enough people demonstrate their discontent. But all in all ... don't get in the way of change all the time. It's really annoying and sad to see people moan and groan after every Runescape update. They always manage to make it look like the end of the world has been announced and Jagex is Lucifer or Beelzebub.

More important is to make sure you change things too. Be the instigator of change. Having to bend back and forth to adapt to change is manageable only for a short while. You'll soon start feeling like a play toy. So once in a while you've got to grab hold of your own little universe and shake it around, just because you can. Mix things up, do things you didn't do before. That's what I try to do with my life anyway.

Imagine if nothing ever changed. Nothing would exist!
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 03:35 AM

I usually adapt to change, i find the positive things in the new things and try to move on even if i don't like the new change.
But this is because a lot of IRL stuff that made me the way I am now.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 04:00 AM

Change is one of the few constants in life, as ironic as it sounds. There's little to do than to adapt to it, being mad about it or somehow stagnating won't do you any good, not on the internet and especially not in life. That being said, it's not always as easy to adapt to new situations, and it's not always worth it either. Adapting to change in things you care little about is generally quite easy, RuneScape would fit in that category, but I'd have a lot more problems adapting to (negative) changes in my relationship for example.

At the end of the day though, the best way to deal with changes in certain situations, is to ask yourself whether the juice is worth the squeeze. If something on RuneScape for example changes drastically, up to the point where it means the game is no longer enjoyable to you, stop.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 11:05 AM

Change in RuneScape is too insignifigant to get riled up about. When the Wilderness was lost, I gave a half-hearted "meh" because I didn't really care. The type of change that occur in RuneScape are nothing when you look at them side by side with things that really matter. I let change happen and, in time, I get used to it like I did wiht whatever was there previously.


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Posted 24 October 2009 - 11:37 AM

None of the major changes have really affected me...i never went into the wildy, never used duel arena...
Usually i like change, it feels nice to know im not in a static community. I find that I mostly like the changes brought into the game, but that I also sometimes wish rs was back to how it was in '05-'06 for some reason...

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 01:05 PM

Any change takes some getting used to, of course. But it's always important to give change a chance. If we simply reject it outright, nothing would ever advance. There would be no progression, we'd have no technology. The people who suggested these changes to begin with were surely laughed it, but look how far we've come. If we never gave changes a chance, we'd have no electricity, never mind computers. On the other hand, we should always give change a chance, but we should always question it as well. It's never good to blindly accept anything. Give it a chance, but critique it and make sure that the change actually is an improvement.

In regards to RuneScape, it's essentially the same way. Change is usually a good thing, because Jagex are constantly looking at ways to improve the game for their players, which in turn generates more money for them. I cannot think of an instance in which Jagex would try to make a change that would negatively affect the game, because that would only lose them players and money. So we should embrace change, but be wary to make sure that we don't simply go along with everything we're faced with. Question authority.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 02:23 PM

I think most of the feedback, as well as my opinions, show that change in Runescape hasn't affected them as much as it has other people. When I made the statement saying that people would get angry about certain updates, I was mostly pointing towards the Player Killing community and the many changes that they have faced over the years. From going to full-on wild, to a completely controlled one now, there has been MANY speed bumps along the way. Not every change was agreed upon, most of them in fact were highly against the majority, and in fact led people to either quit, or not PK anymore. Change isn't an easy thing especially in this example simply because the income of money wasn't as abundant, and a certain freedom was lost as well. Change is never completely easy for everyone, some may state that it is, but when a large part of your life goes different suddenly, you don't say "It's all good," it takes a while to cope with it.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 02:53 PM

I've moved somewhat frequently throughout my life, so change is something that I'm well acquainted with. And in accordance to the PK issue, I believe that the majority of people that became enraged failed to realize that removing the Wilderness was a highly effective method of removing real-world trade. Unfortunately, people tend not to care about things unless they affect them directly.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 02:59 PM

View PostBolshevik, on 24 October 2009 - 10:23 PM, said:

Change is never completely easy for everyone, some may state that it is, but when a large part of your life goes different suddenly, you don't say "It's all good," it takes a while to cope with it.
While that is true, anyone who considers Runescape as a large part of their life has other issues than the inability to deal with change.
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Posted 24 October 2009 - 07:36 PM

View PostArno, on 24 October 2009 - 04:59 PM, said:

View PostBolshevik, on 24 October 2009 - 10:23 PM, said:

Change is never completely easy for everyone, some may state that it is, but when a large part of your life goes different suddenly, you don't say "It's all good," it takes a while to cope with it.
While that is true, anyone who considers Runescape as a large part of their life has other issues than the inability to deal with change.


Some people might, but that was not what I was trying to infer with that statement as a whole. However, addiction can and probably makes Runescape a large part of someone's life, making it so when they have to get rid of it/leave, it's a big change to them.
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 03:03 PM

Change happens all the time, you just have to deal with it. As others have said, change in Runescape isn't really that big of a deal. It's a game. Of course, some people take games way too seriously, but change in a game isn't really something you need to get worked up about.

Personally, I just realize change has to occur and it always will. I try to adapt to it and typically do.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:30 PM

I dislike change with a passion. Whether it be a small, insignificant change or a life-changing moment, I dislike it.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 03:34 PM

View Postfishing-in-c, on 26 October 2009 - 04:30 PM, said:

I dislike change with a passion. Whether it be a small, insignificant change or a life-changing moment, I dislike it.


Even so, wouldn't you agree some change is necessary?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 06:33 PM

Well we really saw the extent to which many people don't like or want change and find it difficult to cope with when Jagex removed the old wilderness.
However, now that we have learned how to adapt to the new wilderness and PvP zones, most of us feel that the change was good, I believe.
This is the same with me usually. I don't always welcome change, however when it does happen I think that it is important to adapt to it as quickly and as easily as you can.

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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:11 PM

View PostHersch, on 26 October 2009 - 10:34 PM, said:

View Postfishing-in-c, on 26 October 2009 - 04:30 PM, said:

I dislike change with a passion. Whether it be a small, insignificant change or a life-changing moment, I dislike it.


Even so, wouldn't you agree some change is necessary?

"Change" as a concept is always necessary. If nothing changed, well ... then nothing would exist. But in some cases, the "kind" of change and the temporal context of the specific change can be unnecessary and result into unhappiness. For instance, if I suddenly decide to change my stance on whether or not food should be eaten with both fork and knife, regardless of the kind of food it is (bar soup and the foodstuffs that obviously require a spoon), I wouldn't be making much difference and one could say that this change in attitude is highly irrelevant and unnecessary. But if I decided to never change anything in my life again, I would become a stale cast of opinions and fossilized thoughts.

I really cannot stand status quo (no, not Status Quo). I really like for things to change as much and as often as possible. I grow tired, depressed and empty of being stuck in a rut, repeating the same rituals every morning, seeing the same people every few hours, talking the same kind of small-talk with the same neighbors every evening. Those things quickly get on my nerves and I go out of my way to change them. This can be as easy as to take a new route home, be creative in my cooking, think about where my next holiday could take me, and so on.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 01:41 PM

The major change on runescape for me was when the old wilderness was removed and the Bh craters where added. I Quit for over a year, I dont see this as giving up because in my opinion the main aspect of the game was taken away, there was nothing left there for me to bare through or adapt to. Back then when that happened it was just like playing a whole new game. so I had the choice of playing a Dull game with horrible PvP and a community full of ranting morons who hated the developers but still handed over there money to them, Or a brand new shiny one that actually interested me.
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Posted 31 October 2009 - 02:01 PM

Change is perpetual. It'll never stop, therefore I accept change; often taking a step back to just look at whats going on. There's absolutely no point trying to stop change - it's GOING to happen.
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Posted 01 November 2009 - 08:53 PM

I don't always like the change, but I accept it. Of course there are limits to this, like tyrannical dictators(other than myself) coming to power, but change is necessary. This is how society as a whole adapts and evolves, and continues to survive. Without change, all would cease to exist, as it is. Hopefully the matter itself would stay around. Some change, I'm glad for. Some, I complain excessively about. But in the end, this change happens. So I accept this and learn how to adapt to it.
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Posted 02 November 2009 - 05:22 AM

View PostGreen, on 31 October 2009 - 09:01 PM, said:

Change is perpetual. It'll never stop, therefore I accept change; often taking a step back to just look at whats going on. There's absolutely no point trying to stop change - it's GOING to happen.
While it's true that "change" as a phenomenon will never be stopped, it is also important to be critical about the kind of change you experience. If my country gets taken over by an authoritarian body, I'm not going to step back and say "oh well, change is good, it happens all the time". So you've got to evaluate everything that changes and determine whether or not this change was for the good (be it for you, the people, your stomach, your wallet, your children, ...). In this light, it is also vital that we keep criticizing Jagex (though never unjustly). It keeps them on their toes and it makes sure the updates are fine-tuned by the people who use them.
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