[Dirt Biker16]

Jagex's sole goals isn't to cater to playerkillers. With dragonfish, dragon defenders, barrow boots etc. you only cater to pkers. Plus, with these new "Gold Dragons" being in a PvP area, you are ensuring that very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very VERY few of these items will exist if any. All pkers will kill there, and with a rare drop and pkers no one will ever go. It will be worse than green dragons on a PvP world.

[Milch]

The tag idea is pretty inventive and I must say it is the first "bring back the wildy" idea that has actually piqued my interest. The tag system you're suggesting would make all pkers on different worlds though, so instead of w18 being a hotspot of pking, everyone would be spread apart. This update also seems to be catered more towards single pkers rather than clans/teams, but it is a neat idea. I also like removing pvp from everywhere in runescape to just the wildy like it once was (Rs2 not classic). However, the "golden dragon" and the drops and the other suggestions seem way too far fetched.

[cheeri thumb]

I agree with everything here.

[Toned Range]

Milch123, on Feb 22 2009, 08:01 AM, said:

The tag idea is pretty inventive and I must say it is the first "bring back the wildy" idea that has actually piqued my interest. The tag system you're suggesting would make all pkers on different worlds though, so instead of w18 being a hotspot of pking, everyone would be spread apart. This update also seems to be catered more towards single pkers rather than clans/teams, but it is a neat idea. I also like removing pvp from everywhere in runescape to just the wildy like it once was (Rs2 not classic). However, the "golden dragon" and the drops and the other suggestions seem way too far fetched.

Pretty much sums it up, i hope Jagex see this idea and actually think about it.

Perhaps post the quick find code on here? i cant even find it on rs forums

This post has been edited by Toned Range: 22 February 2009 - 07:44 AM

[i0h]

An amazing idea, not sure if Jagex will implement though, what about bounty hunter, clan wars, SC and fog

[CH SL]

Not allowed to post the quick-find code on here :\

and Robert. E. Lee.. You said if the wilderness was made for danger then quests would never have been made there..

Yes they would. Jagex always intended revenants to imitate real PKers, so Jagex would believe if people can risk the wilderness with revenants, they could risk it with PKers. What about people that had clue scrolls before Jagex killed PKing? They just had to get on with it or forget about it. END OF.

just stop arguing now, it doesn't matter either way.

[Sky Solder]

Example: Friends A, B and C want to transfer something from player A to player C.

A&B share a tag and B&C share a tag. Player A kills player C and gets the full drop..

[CH SL]

Sky Solder, on Feb 22 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Example: Friends A, B and C want to transfer something from player A to player C.

A&B share a tag and B&C share a tag. Player A kills player C and gets the full drop..

... You can only have one tag at a time... So that wouldn't work...

[Tai kwan oo0]

Great suggestion. Apart from the gold dragons and their drops. That's not something wilderness nor runescape need imo. Everything else sounds great and hard to abuse, bh is probably more rwt friendly than the tag system ^^

[Lusidea]

I LOVE this suggestions, it would make RWT almost impossible, but than bring PKing back. You should definatley put this on the official Runescape forums. One problem, what about stuff that happens in the wilderness? EG clues, the Summer quests ect.. How would you get around this? The fish idea seems good, should give a nice boost to cooking, fishing and pking.

[Robb]

I like the tag bit. REALLY good idea, well thought out.

I disagree with taking away Bounty Hunter ( Some people like it ).

I'm also 50/50 on the making the wilderness a place where more people want to go, It should be made for luxurative, but I disagree with your choice of options ( The monsters, safe skill area (Wilderness is dangerous, always should be) and the barrows defender.


Support.

[joshrogan]

robert e lee i don't think many of the posters care for your opinion.

anyway, brilliant suggestion i hope that the content team bring somthing along the lines of this up at the next meeting they have with the new CEO.
jagex already stated they were interested in making wilderness pvp worlds so lets see can we push them for this :o.

[CH SL]

Lusidea, on Feb 22 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

I LOVE this suggestions, it would make RWT almost impossible, but than bring PKing back. You should definatley put this on the official Runescape forums. One problem, what about stuff that happens in the wilderness? EG clues, the Summer quests ect.. How would you get around this? The fish idea seems good, should give a nice boost to cooking, fishing and pking.

Thanks :)
It's on the RS Forums, but nobody ever reads posts on there, so I prefer it here.
people could do clues fine when there were pkers before, and they'd be fine now. Questers would just have to take a risk, or not do it.
The safe skill island is safe yes, but to get there, players have to run all the way from mage arena, which is in deep wild, so it is only safe so people can't attack you when you're chopping or fishing - once you need to bank, you have to run through deep wild. So the wilderness IS dangerous - but if you could get attacked while you were chopping wood, nobody would go there.

[Aryogaton]

Wouldn't it be possible for a RWTer to make accounts, bot them to level 20, get tags until one account gets the same tag as the buyer, then bot money on that account until they get enough? It would be a longer waiting period, but it will happen eventually.

Remember that RWTers can have multiple accounts at once.

Oh and don't remove anything. Nothing at all.

This post has been edited by Aryogaton: 22 February 2009 - 12:35 PM

[CH SL]

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be possible for a RWTer to make accounts, bot them to level 20, get tags until one account gets the same tag as the buyer, then bot money on that account until they get enough? It would be a longer waiting period, but it will happen eventually.

Remember that RWTers can have multiple accounts at once.

Oh and don't remove anything. Nothing at all.

Wow, it really wouldn't be worth that much effort to make 60 accounts, in the hope that ONE would be in the same world as the potential trader. And even then, they'd need to bot on that account for longer than a day, so it couldn't work.

[MichiganUnit]

The probability of RWTing happening is slim to none. Even then, it happens in RS today, does it not? They find ways. This is an absolutely beautiful and well thought out plan, and I would LOVE to see this implimented into the game. So much more fun than PVP worlds and BH

Really, really good idea.

[Robert E. Lee]

connorlucas18, on Feb 22 2009, 07:16 AM, said:

Not allowed to post the quick-find code on here :\

and Robert. E. Lee.. You said if the wilderness was made for danger then quests would never have been made there..

Yes they would. Jagex always intended revenants to imitate real PKers, so Jagex would believe if people can risk the wilderness with revenants, they could risk it with PKers. What about people that had clue scrolls before Jagex killed PKing? They just had to get on with it or forget about it. END OF.

just stop arguing now, it doesn't matter either way.

If they intended to make quests in the Wilderness before they shut it down, they would've done so.

And you still don't see the difference between a player-killer and a revenant, do you?

Revenants can't think like a player does. They can't run to chase you, they don't think up strategies to ambush you in vital spots, they don't utilise all player-killing strategies, they don't pull a common Death Dot tactic and they don't speak or form clans for this purpose. Revenants, for better terms, are no where near a player-killer's capability and as such, pose no real threat, even in groups.

Now I agree, JaGeX can design vital safe areas to let questers go about their business, but that'll probably be it.

And as I've said before, I do support this idea, but you must remember not everyone is like you or any other player-killer out there.

Please note I'm trying to stop this arguement in both as an apology and as some form of reasoning here and if this continues, then you don't want to accept my apology.

~REL

[Aryogaton]

connorlucas18, on Feb 22 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be possible for a RWTer to make accounts, bot them to level 20, get tags until one account gets the same tag as the buyer, then bot money on that account until they get enough? It would be a longer waiting period, but it will happen eventually.

Remember that RWTers can have multiple accounts at once.

Oh and don't remove anything. Nothing at all.

Wow, it really wouldn't be worth that much effort to make 60 accounts, in the hope that ONE would be in the same world as the potential trader. And even then, they'd need to bot on that account for longer than a day, so it couldn't work.

Buyer: Hi, I'd like to buy 20m please.

Seller: Ok, would you like the Fast method (semi-risky) or Guaranteed method (no risk, but longer waiting period).

Buyer: Guaranteed method

Seller: Thank you for your purchase. You have been put on our waiting list. We will contact you when we get the right world.

Seller: Makes 60 accounts and bots them each to level 20 in a day. Then each bots 20m.

Buyer: My world today is world 67.

Seller: Gets a tag for each account. If none get world 67, repeat for the next day.

Any account not used will be used for the next purchase.

A transaction would probably take less than a week. And don't say no one will buy it because of the long waiting period, people are patient. Not to mention people can just buy in advance. Also, RWTers can easily get 100s of accounts botting at once. You're dealing with professionals here.

This post has been edited by Aryogaton: 22 February 2009 - 05:08 PM

[Itachi_in_a_can]

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

connorlucas18, on Feb 22 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be possible for a RWTer to make accounts, bot them to level 20, get tags until one account gets the same tag as the buyer, then bot money on that account until they get enough? It would be a longer waiting period, but it will happen eventually.

Remember that RWTers can have multiple accounts at once.

Oh and don't remove anything. Nothing at all.

Wow, it really wouldn't be worth that much effort to make 60 accounts, in the hope that ONE would be in the same world as the potential trader. And even then, they'd need to bot on that account for longer than a day, so it couldn't work.

Buyer: Hi, I'd like to buy 20m please.

Seller: Ok, would you like the Fast method (semi-risky) or Guaranteed method (no risk, but longer waiting period).

Buyer: Guaranteed method

Seller: Thank you for your purchase. You have been put on our waiting list. We will contact you when we get the right world.

Seller: Makes 60 accounts and bots them each to level 20 in a day. Then each bots 20m.

Buyer: My world today is world 67.

Seller: Gets a tag for each account. If none get world 67, repeat for the next day.

Any account not used will be used for the next purchase.

A transaction would probably take less than a week. And don't say no one will buy it because of the long waiting period, people are patient. Not to mention people can just buy in advance. Also, RWTers can easily get 100s of accounts botting at once. You're dealing with professionals here.

If there buying gold, i don't think they would be patient.... i make money by buying low and selling high, sure it takes time, but im required to do virtualy nothing. If they where patient, dont you think theyed make money the legit way?

This post has been edited by Itachi_in_a_can: 22 February 2009 - 06:32 PM

[Aryogaton]

Itachi_in_a_can, on Feb 22 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

connorlucas18, on Feb 22 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

Aryogaton, on Feb 22 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be possible for a RWTer to make accounts, bot them to level 20, get tags until one account gets the same tag as the buyer, then bot money on that account until they get enough? It would be a longer waiting period, but it will happen eventually.

Remember that RWTers can have multiple accounts at once.

Oh and don't remove anything. Nothing at all.

Wow, it really wouldn't be worth that much effort to make 60 accounts, in the hope that ONE would be in the same world as the potential trader. And even then, they'd need to bot on that account for longer than a day, so it couldn't work.

Buyer: Hi, I'd like to buy 20m please.

Seller: Ok, would you like the Fast method (semi-risky) or Guaranteed method (no risk, but longer waiting period).

Buyer: Guaranteed method

Seller: Thank you for your purchase. You have been put on our waiting list. We will contact you when we get the right world.

Seller: Makes 60 accounts and bots them each to level 20 in a day. Then each bots 20m.

Buyer: My world today is world 67.

Seller: Gets a tag for each account. If none get world 67, repeat for the next day.

Any account not used will be used for the next purchase.

A transaction would probably take less than a week. And don't say no one will buy it because of the long waiting period, people are patient. Not to mention people can just buy in advance. Also, RWTers can easily get 100s of accounts botting at once. You're dealing with professionals here.

If there buying gold, i don't think they would be patient.... i make money by buying low and selling high, sure it takes time, but im required to do virtualy nothing. If they where patient, dont you think theyed make money the legit way?

Here's another way.

The seller maintains a few hundred accounts, each at level 20 combat and with a few m's of gold. These accounts exist beforehand. When a buyer wants to buy some money, the seller gets tags for the accounts until one gets the right one. If none of them do, the transaction is held for the next day.

You gotta think of every possible method of transferring. An electric fence is more secure than a huge labyrinth. Bounty Hunter is risky to perform transactions. Your method is tedious to perform transactions, but is still less secure.