Jump to content


* * * * - 2 votes
Guide

Zaoir's Guide To Effective Kingdom Management



  • Please log in to reply
225 replies to this topic

#1 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:10 PM

*
POPULAR

Posted Image

Posted Image
    1. What is Kingdom Management?
    2. How do you gain access to your Kingdom?
    3. Basics
    4. Getting There
    5. Raising Your Approval Rating
    6. Increasing Funds in Your Royal Coffer
    7. Setting Your Workers to Gather Resources
    8. Collecting Your Resources
    9. Gathering Options
    10. Resource Costs
    11. Profitable Strategies
    12. Today's Profits Spreadsheet
    13. Tips and Tricks
    14. Credits
Posted Image
    Kingdom Management is an activity in which you gain control of the Kingdom of Miscellanea and decide which resources to gather for your personal use. You add money to the royal coffer and help citizens to gain their approval of you, making them work harder. It's a great way to get raw materials for certain skills or gain profit daily. Your Kingdom can easily be reached using the Fairy Rings (CIP) or using an Enchanted Lyre to teleport to Relleka and then take a boat to Miscellanea.


Posted Image


Posted Image
    To gain control of your Kingdom and start your royal duties, you must first complete the quest Throne of Miscellanea. Upon completion, you will be able to access the royal coffer and assign up to ten workers to gather resources. Still, to gain full access to the Kingdom's benefits, you must also complete the subsequent quest, Royal Trouble. This will add five more workers to your team and two more gathering options. Both of these quests are relatively easy and are both required to gain maximum profit from your Kingdom.


Posted Image


Posted Image
    The whole managing concept is quite easy to grasp, and shouldn't take long before you fully understand it. There are three factors that affect how well your kingdom produces resources: citizen approval rating, funds in the royal coffer, and the amount of workers set on the resources. You can manage these things and collect your resources by talking to Advisor Ghrim located in the Miscellanea Castle.


Posted Image


Posted Image
    Getting to the Kingdom of Miscellanea isn't hard, and there's quite a few ways to do so. Here in this map you'll see some of the easiest paths to your Kingdom with some brief insight on each of them below it.


Posted Image

  • A. Fairy Rings - The code to the Miscellanea Fairy Ring is CIP. This is the method you'll most likely use if you have started the Fairytale II - Cure A Queen quest. Not only are the rings highly accessible from most places in Runescape, the one in Miscellanea is located right next to the coal, so you can easily raise your Approval Rating.
  • B. Enchanted Lyre Teleport - The Enchanted Lyre is another good method of getting to your Kingdom. You'll be able to make one once you finish The Fremennik Trials. It's a bit of a tedious process to make one, but you can have multiples in your bank. You can opt to enchant it with a Shark, Sea Turtle, Manta Ray, or a Bass (with an enchanted Ring of Charos) at the Fossegrimmen's altar south of Relleka. If you have they Fremennik Boots 2 from the Fremennik Achievement Diary, you'll have a free lyre teleport each day.
  • C. Camelot Teleport - A viable option once you have 45 Magic. Simple and cheap, costing only 1 Law Rune and 5 Air Runes, this is also a good way to reach the kingdom. You'll have to make a rather long walk towards Relleka and then get on a boat to Miscellanea on the docks there, only to walk a bit more towards your kingdom, so it can be a bit tiring. Keep in mind, that eventually all those runes will add up though, so I'd advise for one of the previous two if possible.
  • D. Slayer Ring Teleport - You can also get there using a Slayer Ring to teleport to the Fremennik Slayer Dungeon, walk from there to Relleka, and onto the boat to Miscellanea. You'll need to have completed the Smoking Kills quest and have accumulated enough Slayer Points to either buy a ring , or learn to craft them yourself. Unless you're an avid slayer, you probably won't be using this method much.
  • E. House Teleport - With 30 Construction you can set your house in Relleka and with 40 Magic you can teleport to it. It'll cost you 1 Law Rune, 1 Air Rune, and 1 Earth Rune to cast the spell, and you'll appear inside your house. Considering you appear at nearly the same spot as the lyre, you're better off using that method.
  • F. Spirit Tree Teleport - If you have 83 Farming, you can also plant a Spirit Tree in the patch in Etceteria. This method is very convenient, since there's a Spirit Tree right next to the Grand Exchange.

Posted Image
    You'll learn how to raise your approval rating during the Throne of Miscellanea quest. The idea is to help citizens in your kingdom with their daily tasks, whether it be woodcutting, herb picking, mining, or fishing. Each gives a different percentage of approval per resource. The quickest way to raise your Approval Rating is by helping Miner Magnus mine coal, on the northwest side of Miscellanea. Each coal you mine will add 0.8% to your Approval Rating, meaning after 125 Coal mined, you will have raised from 0% to 100% rating. Your Approval Rating decreases every day and should be kept at 100% for maximum efficiency. Mining one coal a day should suffice in maintaining it there. You can check your current Approval Rating by speaking to any citizen or with Advisor Ghrim.


Posted Image

    You get very little experience from helping your subjects and they will not allow you to help any further once you reach 100% Approval Rating.
Posted Image
    This is pretty straight forward. Get some of your gold coins from your bank and talk to Advisor Ghrim to deposit them in the Kingdom's coffer. Simple as that. You can store up to 5M after Throne of Miscellanea, and later up to 7.5M once you complete Royal Trouble. Your workers will be paid one tenth of the amount you have deposited, to a maximum of 50K which raises to 75K after Royal Trouble. For maximum efficiency, you should always make sure to have at least 750K in your coffer every day.

Posted Image



Posted Image
    After talking to Advisor Ghrim and accessing the Kingdom Control window, you can set your workers to collect resources by clicking the up and down arrows next to the desired option. You will have a total of ten workers at first, which later increases to fifteen after the completion of Royal Trouble. You must always make sure none of your workers are Idle; Idle workers are still paid! Having more workers on one option will mean more of that resource. After gathering a set number of resources, your workers will find a bonus item. This item changes for each resource.

Posted Image

    For information on bonus items, see the Gathering Options section.
Posted Image
    After your first day of setting up your Kingdom, you will be able to collect the resources gathered by your subjects. To do so, simply talk to Advisor Ghrim and ask him how the Kingdom is faring. He will give you the option to collect your resources or leave them stored for later. The only benefit you would get by not collecting them is you receive a slightly higher amount bonus items. The amount of main resources per day is not affected in any way by this. You must have enough empty spaces in your bank in order to collect the resources (usually between 5-10 spaces).


Posted Image

    Note: You have to wait 24 hours starting from the moment you first set your workers to gather and had money stored in your coffer. Should your coffer or approval rating ever reach zero, the timer will be reset to the time you raise either again. The time you gather your resources does not affect the timer in any way.
Posted Image
    There are a total of six gathering options and a total of eight obtainable resources.

Posted Image

    Herbs Patch
    The Herbs option can be set to gather either random Herbs or Flax. The range of possible Herbs includes low level and high level herbs, but favors lower level herbs though usually above Tarromin. The Flax setting will give you just that: Flax. I wouldn't recommend using the Herbs setting at all since it's a big gamble and you could make more money using other options to buy the herbs you need. The flax setting on the other hand is very useful for Crafting and Fletching. For every 100 herbs or 600 flax, you will get a random herb seed.
  • You gather 6 herbs or 125 flax per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).

    Wood Site
    The Wood option provides only Maple Logs. This option is only good if trying to get certain bird eggs. The amount of Maple Logs gained is less than that which you would get by just buying them from players at the price paid. If training Firemaking or Fletching, it's best to gather another resource to make money and buy the maple logs instead. For every 100 Maple Logs, you will receive a Bird's Nest. Bird's Nests received this way are the same as if gotten by woodcutting and can contain eggs (with the exception of Raven Eggs), seeds, and rings. This is also a good way to try and get all the God Eggs needed to get the respective pet.
  • You gather 89 Maple Logs per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).

    Mining Site
    The Mining option provides only Coal. This can be very useful when training Smithing, since you would only have to gather main ores yourself. It's perfect for Ranged and Slayer training as well, since you can make Cannonballs at a lowered cost. For every 150 Coal mined, you will receive one random Uncut Gem (Sapphire, Emerald, Ruby, or Diamond only).
  • You gather 54 Coal per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).

    Fishing Docks
    The Fishing option will provide you with two resources at once: Tuna and Swordfish. You may also set the option for these fish to be cooked, which could be useful if you quickly need training food. Still, I recommend getting them raw, since they are worth more this way and can provide Cooking XP should you decide to cook them. For every 50 fish, you will get one casket. Caskets can contain anything from Seaweed to Half a Key, though coins and gems are the most common rewards. You may also get occasional Level-1 Clue Scrolls, Uncut Gems, Fremennik Gloves, or Fremennik Boots from fishing along with the Caskets.
  • You gather 44 Tuna and 13 Swordfish per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).

    Hardwood Site
    This option is gained after the completion of the Royal Trouble quest. The Hardwood option will gather either Teak Logs, Mahogany Logs or both. I don't recommend using these logs for training Construction, since the planking cost is quite large. I don't recommend using this option at all. For every 350 logs, you will get a Bird's Nest.
  • You gather 30 Teak Logs or 20 Mahogany Logs per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K). If set to gather both, you gather 12 Teak and Mahogany Logs per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).

    Farm Patch
    This option is gained after the completion of the Royal Trouble quest. The Farm option will provide random Farming Seeds. Note that neither tree nor fruit tree seeds are obtained as part of the main resource. This option is not particularly useful and I wouldn't recommend using it. For every 175 seeds, you will get 1 Tree Seed.
  • You gather 47 Farming Seeds per worker at maximum Approval Rating (100%) and Funds (750K).
Posted Image


Posted Image

Note: The maximum value for Coffer Funds is 750,000. Even if there is more stored in the Coffer, that value will not exceed 750,000.Posted Image



Posted Image

    There are quite a few ways to manage your Kingdom in the most efficient way possible depending on what your goal is and how much work you are willing to put into it. Here are the two most profitable ones I've found as of today. Note that you have to visit your Kingdom every day to keep your Approval Rating at 100% and your coffer over 750K in order for these to work.

    Maximum Possible Profit With Most Work
    The set up that will provide the maximum profit possible is definitely having 10 workers on Flax and 5 workers on Coal. This method requires the most work and can consume quite a part of your day. To get the most out of this you will have to spin all 1250 Flax into Bow Strings, mine 136 iron ores to smelt into Steel Bars, and then turn the Steel Bars into Cannonballs. Doing this daily can be quite tedious and boring unless you are training either Crafting or Smithing. If you are going to use this method, I'd recommend collecting resources a day or two before starting to process them into the final products. Do not let them pile up though, or you will become discouraged. Unless you are training Crafting or Smithing, I would not recommend this method, since you could probably make more or the same amount of profit doing something else in less time than it would take to process all the items.
  • You will receive at least approx. 253K profit per day this way. You will also gain 18,750 Crafting XP, 4,760 Mining XP, and 5,780 Smithing XP per day.

    Maximum Possible Profit With Some Work
    If you are training Crafting or don't mind spinning 1250 flax every day, then the best set up for you would be 10 workers on Flax and 5 on Fish. The fish should be sold raw for maximum profit, though you will still profit if you cook them.



    Posted Image

  • You will receive at least approx. 208K profit per day using this method. Along with that you get 18,750 Crafting XP daily. Should you decide to cook the fish, you will gain 31,100 Cooking XP daily at the cost of 13K less profit (195K Total Profit).

    Maximum Possible Profit With No Work
    Currently, the more conventional set up for maximum profit would be 10 workers on Coal and 5 workers on Fish. Another option could be 5 workers on Flax depending on current GE prices. You will also receive gems as well as caskets, which will considerably add to the profit gained.



    Posted Image

  • You will receive somewhere around 195K profit a day.

    Popular Method: Bird Nests
    Another possible setup would be to have 10 workers on Maples and 5 workers on Fish. The reason you would want to set them to Maples is not for the Maple Logs, but for the Bird Nests you get every 100 Maple Logs. Inside these nests you can find valuable fruit tree seeds as well as normal tree seeds. While this is a bit of a small gamble, you can potentially gain more profit than the method listed above. Crushing the nests might become a hassle for some though, especially if your bank is near full.



    Posted Image

  • You will receive approx. 88K profit on assured materials alone, plus the possible profits from the items in the Bird Nests. Should you decide to cook the fish, you will gain 31,100 Cooking XP daily at the cost of 13K less assured profit (75K Assured Profit).

    Note: Prices are sure to fluctuate as days pass so the profit earned might either rise or lower depending on the time the items are sold. All profit totals were made based on the items minimum selling price on the day of writing, meaning higher profit is possible if sold at market or maximum price. For current prices and profit gains, see "Section 12: Today's Profits Spreadsheet."
Posted Image
    To make sure you are collecting from the most profitable method according to today's prices, check the following spreadsheet located at:
    http://spreadsheets....d=0&output=html

    Note: If the link above, isn't working for you, try this one:
    http://spreadsheets....hEeFdxREE&hl=en

    It updates along with the prices in the Grand Exchange, so you will always know which method is best to collect whenever you decide to do so. To change methods, simply refuse to collect resources when prompted by the Advisor, and make the appropriate changes in the Kingdom Management interface. Talk to him again and choose to collect the resources. You will receive the resources for the method you just set. Note that no matter how long you have waited to collect your resources, the one that is most profitable in the spreadsheet (which is based on one day's collection) will also be the most profitable for however many days you waited. Finally, a small table at the top will tell you when it's a good time to sell an item or when you should store it until later, when it's price rises. Enjoy!
Posted Image
  • A good time to set the timer for collecting resources is at midnight or some time you are asleep. That way, it will be as if you can gather them daily, instead of every 24 hours.
  • Try not to space your workers to many tasks, this is unconventional and does not make much profit.
  • If you ever want to stop your Kingdom from working, simply withdraw all your funds from the royal coffer. Do NOT just set your workers to Idle, as they will still get paid.
  • If you have access to Lunar Spells, you can use the NPC Contact (67 Magic) spell to speak with Advisor Ghrim. Remember to still go and keep your approval rating and funds up if you do this though.
  • When selling the items, try selling them at market price first. Leave them on for a while to see if they sell before changing them to minimum price.
  • Remember to bring 75K coins and a pickaxe every time you visit your Kingdom so you can add to the coffer and raise your Approval Rating.
  • You can also bring a hatchet instead, and cut Teaks in Etceteria to raise your Approval Rating quickly without having to click much.
  • If you forget a pickaxe or hatchet, you can buy a rake or sickle for 15gp from Gardener Gunnhild near the castle wall's entrance. You can then help by weeding the Herbs patch instead, though it will take longer to raise your Approval Rating.
  • Also, if you have the required levels, you can fish for swordfish or tuna using your hands.
  • There is a bank in Etceteria, just east of Miscellania Castle, if you need to withdraw more money for your coffer.
  • You can store more than 750K in your coffer so you don't have to deposit money in it everyday. Make sure to still visit daily to raise your Approval Rating though. For every 75K over 750K is an extra day you can go without depositing money in your coffer.
  • Storing 1.2M is enough to last a week without going below 750K. This means you pay 525K a week, instead of having to pay the 75K a day (both costs are equal, you do not lose or save money by doing either way). Remember to raise your citizens approval daily though.
  • You can change what resources you get at the last second by simply not collecting them, switching your workers to the desired resource, and then talking to Advisor Ghrim again to collect them.
  • If using the Maple method, it is best to collect resources every week, rather than daily. This is due to the way the bonus items equation works. In layman's terms, the longer you wait to collect, the more nests you'll get.
  • You can get a bit of extra money by buying out all the Feathers from the Fishmonger in Miscellanea and the one in Etceteria, and then selling them in the Grand Exchange.
  • Also, you can plant a Whiteberry bush in the patch in Etceteria and pick from it daily for additional profit.
Posted Image
  • Thanks to Ice2075 for confirming you can change what resources you get at the last second.
  • Thanks to Skill Er2 for reminding me you can catch swordfish with your hands on the docks.
  • Thanks to Sarcasmguy for letting me know of the exception of the Raven Eggs from Bird's Nests.
  • Thanks to pro_rapsac for pointing out a small error.
  • Thanks to a few members of the Zybez board for info on the Bird Nests Method.
  • Thanks to Whatofirmon for some nice formatting advice.
  • Thanks to Braniac294 pointing out a tip regarding the Maples method I had forgotten.
  • Thanks to Lost-Wisdom for correcting my sense of direction.
  • Thanks to Merdoc76 for suggesting the Getting There section.
  • Thanks to Vaqueri for making the awesome heading images, title image, and remaking the "Getting There" map.
  • Thanks to Grc25 for suggesting cutting Teaks to raise Approval Rating quickly.
  • Thanks to ocd kills for informing me of the Spirit Tree teleport travel method.
  • Thanks to monomach for gathering information on the herbs method.
  • Thanks to Kaiba for additional information on the herbs method.
    This guide is Copyright 2008-2010 Zaoir and the Zybez Community Guides Forum.
    This may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for
    personal, private use. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise
    distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this
    guide on any other web site or as a part of any public display is
    strictly prohibited, and a violation of copyright.

    All trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned
    by their respective trademark and copyright holders.

Quote

Guide Copyright Notice:
All Guides are Copyright © Zybez RuneScape Community Guides forum and the original author, 2001-2010+; All Rights Reserved.

All Guides submitted to Zybez RuneScape Community become property of the Zybez Guides forum. Use on any other website without the author's permission is PROHIBITED!


Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#2 Karll

Karll

    from here to eternity

  • Posts:10,218
  • Joined:16-December 06
  • RS Name:Zerk4a
  • RS Status:Retired

Posted 12 October 2008 - 04:13 AM

Approved. Welcome to General Guides! :wallbash:

Posted Image

LoL: smok0


#3 Ill_Knock0ut

Ill_Knock0ut

    Possibly back in business for 2007 RS.

  • Posts:5,014
  • Joined:10-December 06
  • RS Status:Retired

Posted 12 October 2008 - 04:55 AM

Very nice guide, gratz on making it to General Guides.
I do currently make like 800k profit/week with 50% flax, I think I'm going 50% coal :wallbash:

Here are some profit pics, from 4x a week. (100% maples 50% flax)



1
Posted Image
2
Posted Image
3
Posted Image
4
Posted Image
4 magic seeds from 36 nests
Posted Image

Total: 5,5m
Total cost: 2,1m.
Pure profit: 3,4m
Profit/week: 850k

Edited by Man_Whij_Me, 12 October 2008 - 04:57 AM.

Also known as Dispar Vulgo & Man Whij Me.

Posted Image


#4 Jewlace

Jewlace

    The Inquisitive One

  • Posts:1,761
  • Joined:18-April 04
  • RS Name:Jewlace
  • RS Status:Inactive

Posted 12 October 2008 - 06:20 AM

Nice guide, I'm pretty sure by the nests and potential seeds that come out of them, maples produce a huge profit margin.

#5 Lumpek

Lumpek

    Junior Member

  • Posts:1
  • Joined:14-May 08
  • RS Name:rok472
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:06 AM

Wey nice guide:) I do this almost 1 year :)



Ummm i think you get more from maples/coal becuse you can get wery good seeds + bird's eggs and you sell the nests too or you make sara brews and make even more mony :)

#6 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 12 October 2008 - 10:06 AM

Yeah, it is possible to get more from maples because of the seeds, but I wanted to provide methods that are 100% guaranteed to make you profit.

Considering the amounts of nests, I know the chances are not too low, but it's still not 100% you'll get those valuable seeds.
I might consider doing a few tests with the maples and add the results to the guide. Thanks for the input! :wallbash:

Edit: After further testing, I see that this setup is indeed 100% guaranteed to make profit even without the seeds (though by a small margin).

Edited by Zaoir, 26 November 2008 - 12:31 PM.

Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#7 aka Kyle

aka Kyle

    TSG Slayer

  • Posts:363
  • Joined:03-November 07
  • RS Name:aka KyIe
  • RS Status:Member
  • Clan:TSG

Posted 13 October 2008 - 04:21 PM

i prefer the 10 maples and 5 fish. bc i want the god eggs and the nest are a handy profit. with the extra seeds.
Your signature has been removed because it was breaking the rules of this community. It was evading our censor. To find out more, please see our Signature and avatar rules. Please ensure that you fix your signature according to the rules before putting it up again. Otherwise, you may be banned. If you need any help, feel free to contact me. Thanks, ile

#8 Speksku

Speksku

    Rt leader/site admin

Posted 19 October 2008 - 05:12 AM

Putting 10 workers on maples is always the best tbh, the nests alone are worth a lot already and you always make a good profit of the tree seeds. The other 5 don't matter that much since coal/fish/flax profits are usually about the same depending on their prices.


Posted Image

Reinvented Truth leader

Full memberlist | Retired memberlist

"The truth comes as conqueror only because we have lost the art of receiving it as guest."

"No pleasure is comparable to the standing upon the vantage-ground of truth."

"The army of Truth is the real Invincible Armada. Truths are always destined to be victorious."

"Not being known doesn't stop the truth from being true."


#9 Kahu

Kahu

    Skylar.(:

  • Posts:120
  • Joined:28-December 05
  • RS Name:Kahu Koa
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 20 October 2008 - 09:36 AM

Very good guide. I tried it out last night, I put 100% on maples and 50% on coal.

I'll post my first week results once I get them.
Thanks for the tips!

Edited by Neck_Slayer, 22 October 2008 - 11:48 AM.


#10 Bacon Sarnie

Bacon Sarnie

    Adelais

Posted 20 October 2008 - 10:59 AM

9 Maples 6 Fish is best.

With 9 Maples you get the maximum amount of nests per day you can get and the fish (I believe) is most profitable.

Posted Image


#11 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 20 October 2008 - 04:56 PM

View PostPsy750, on Oct 20 2008, 11:59 AM, said:

9 Maples 6 Fish is best.

With 9 Maples you get the maximum amount of nests per day you can get and the fish (I believe) is most profitable.

(Based on todays prices) With this setup you would have to at least get either 3 Maple Seeds or 1 Yew Seed to make just as much (or a bit over) what you would make with the setup of 10 Fish and 5 Flax (unprocessed). Obviously, if you get a Magic Seed you will make more than said setup. Considering it's not 100% you will meet any of these parameters, you might not get what you need and receive less than what you could've gotten that day. The methods offered above (especially the one's that require work) offer a steady income, that adds up in the end to be higher than that of the Bird's Nests and Seeds (unless of course you get Magic Seeds every day).

Having 9 Maple and 6 Fish you can cover the cost with the fish alone, but then the profit is completely reliant on the outcome of the nests. You have 8 chances a day (a few more if you collect weekly) to get at least 3 Maple Seeds or 1 Yew Seed. It's really a gamble, when you can get a steady income you can rely on.

Remember that the profit amounts stated in my guide were based off the minimum price of those items during that day, because I wanted to show the worst possible outcomes in sales. You can easily sell them on market price, earning you a lot more profit if you know when to sell.

View PostNeck_Slayer, on Oct 20 2008, 10:36 AM, said:

Very good guide. I tried it out last night, I put 100% on maples and 50% on flax.

I'll post my first week results once I get them.
Thanks for the tips!

Please do, I'd like to see the results you get from the nests.
If anyone else has a similar setup (relying on nests for profit), please PM me your results.
I'm still doing a little bit of research into this on my spare time. Thanks! :blink:

Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#12 aka Kyle

aka Kyle

    TSG Slayer

  • Posts:363
  • Joined:03-November 07
  • RS Name:aka KyIe
  • RS Status:Member
  • Clan:TSG

Posted 20 October 2008 - 05:22 PM

ill show you how 2 week of 10 maples, 5 fish. thatll be a good avg.

make sure when you say 'view you items the ppl have collected' that you have 100% approval and enough money in the bank to cover it. its not daily these things are tracked but when you go and click 'view...' its then it comes up with the numbers
Your signature has been removed because it was breaking the rules of this community. It was evading our censor. To find out more, please see our Signature and avatar rules. Please ensure that you fix your signature according to the rules before putting it up again. Otherwise, you may be banned. If you need any help, feel free to contact me. Thanks, ile

#13 pro_rapsac

pro_rapsac

    Member

  • Posts:969
  • Joined:12-March 07
  • RS Status:Free

Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:06 PM

Very well written guide. However, there is one information here that is incorrect:

Quote

The set up that will provide the maximum profit possible is definitely having 10 workers on Flax and 5 workers on Coal. This method required the most work and can consume quite a part of your day. To get the most out of this you will have to spin all 1250 Flax into Bow Strings, mine 136 iron ores to smelt into Steel Bars (Using a Ring of Forging), and then turn the Steel Bars into Cannonballs. Doing this daily can be quite tedious and boring unless you are training either Crafting or Smithing. If you are going to use this method, I'd recommend collecting resources a day or two before starting to process them into the final products. Do not let them pile up though, or you will become discouraged.


You do not need a ring of forging to smelt steel bars 100% successfully.

Edited by pro_rapsac, 20 October 2008 - 08:07 PM.

~Rap_sac~

Feel free to give me a PM if you have any questions, and/or need advice.

Posted Image

#14 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 20 October 2008 - 08:18 PM

View Postpro_rapsac, on Oct 20 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

Very well written guide. However, there is one information here that is incorrect:

Quote

The set up that will provide the maximum profit possible is definitely having 10 workers on Flax and 5 workers on Coal. This method required the most work and can consume quite a part of your day. To get the most out of this you will have to spin all 1250 Flax into Bow Strings, mine 136 iron ores to smelt into Steel Bars (Using a Ring of Forging), and then turn the Steel Bars into Cannonballs. Doing this daily can be quite tedious and boring unless you are training either Crafting or Smithing. If you are going to use this method, I'd recommend collecting resources a day or two before starting to process them into the final products. Do not let them pile up though, or you will become discouraged.


You do not need a ring of forging to smelt steel bars 100% successfully.

Oh wow, thanks. Not sure why that's there.
I'll fix it promptly.

Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#15 overvoltage

overvoltage

    Rawr

Posted 23 October 2008 - 07:25 PM

I noticed that you never used full workers on maple, which is what I always have [100% maple, 50% coal]

There are a few reasons I do this:
First, the nests themselves, 8.25 a day, sell for over 3k each and are crucial to high level herbalists
second, the seeds obtained from those nests often sell for hundreds of thousands of gold, especially since you have a high chance at magic, yew, coconut, papaya, and calquat tree seeds

the seeds pay off my costs threefold without the wood or the coal that comes with it
Comprehensive Guide to Waterfiends - Updated 1/20/12
Guide to Tormented Demons - Updated 1/20/12
Guide to Glacors - Updated 9/17/11

#16 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 23 October 2008 - 09:08 PM

View Postovervoltage, on Oct 23 2008, 07:25 PM, said:

I noticed that you never used full workers on maple, which is what I always have [100% maple, 50% coal]

There are a few reasons I do this:
First, the nests themselves, 8.25 a day, sell for over 3k each and are crucial to high level herbalists
second, the seeds obtained from those nests often sell for hundreds of thousands of gold, especially since you have a high chance at magic, yew, coconut, papaya, and calquat tree seeds

the seeds pay off my costs threefold without the wood or the coal that comes with it

I know about this method and was doing some research into it. Thanks for reminding me you can get fruit tree seeds as well.

Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#17 Zaoir

Zaoir

    SwiftKit Staff

  • Posts:288
  • Joined:05-February 08
  • RS Name:Zaoir
  • RS Status:Member

Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:35 PM

After adding the fruit tree seeds into my calculations, it would seem that having 100% Maples and 50% Fish would be potentially more profitable than the 100% Fish and 50% Flax method.
Profits are fairly the same excluding seeds, so the gamble is worthwhile. I will be adding this soon to my guide with credit to a few people here who helped.

Depending on your luck, I suppose you can potentially gain more than the other two methods listed.
Still, I'd still recommend anyone training Crafting and/or Smithing to use the above methods rather than the 100% Maples one.

Posted Image Posted Image

Posted Image


#18 aka Kyle

aka Kyle

    TSG Slayer

  • Posts:363
  • Joined:03-November 07
  • RS Name:aka KyIe
  • RS Status:Member
  • Clan:TSG

Posted 24 October 2008 - 02:17 PM

but if you are training 99 fletching/firemaking do the maples. and since you mention turning flax into bs. you can also mention turning the maples into maple longbow (u) for increasing profits 100/maple with that. (ONLY IF YOU TRADE WITH JUNK A LOT)

and i noticed how some are saying 9 workers on maples. why?

you acutally gain an extra nest because it rounds up.

Edited by xx 27 x, 24 October 2008 - 02:50 PM.

Your signature has been removed because it was breaking the rules of this community. It was evading our censor. To find out more, please see our Signature and avatar rules. Please ensure that you fix your signature according to the rules before putting it up again. Otherwise, you may be banned. If you need any help, feel free to contact me. Thanks, ile

#19 jesse7771

jesse7771

    Member

Posted 24 October 2008 - 03:20 PM

Nice guide but ive heard that the most effective cash makers are the fish. You might wanna look into those other rescorces.
Phr33 st0ff pl0x?

#20 Vscel4

Vscel4

    Member

Posted 25 October 2008 - 12:07 AM

Maximum profit with no work would always be 10 workers on maples...always.

I didn't see anything in guide about crushing bird nests you get per 100 maples.  You can crush them with a mortar and pestle fast and each crushed nest is 3k each...about 75k a day from nests+the maples+random seeds+whatever other 5 workers are on which is about 300k a day for me not including magic seeds...without working.

Good guide though. ;-)
MSN: [email protected]

SPAM-A-RAMA BODY SLAMA!




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Font:
Arial | Calibri | Lucida Console | Verdana
 
Font Size:
9px | 10px | 11px | 12px | 10pt | 12pt
 
Color: