[Cirque]

The fact of the matter is, Jagex owns your character, and everything in relation to your character. Period. They can do with it as they wish, although the claim was infact false that you could revert back, the argument is pointless, as 1) they won't let you change it back. 2) it's THEIR name.

[Hersch]

Cirque, on 08 November 2009 - 08:42 PM, said:

The fact of the matter is, Jagex owns your character, and everything in relation to your character. Period. They can do with it as they wish, although the claim was infact false that you could revert back, the argument is pointless, as 1) they won't let you change it back. 2) it's THEIR name.

You're completely right that Jagex does in fact own all of our characters, but the argument isn't really pointless. We're paying customers and have a right to complain about what we believe isn't fair. We're also not discussing if we are going to be able to change them back, but is what Jagex doing fair? We all know it's their game and thus we have to follow their rules, but we, as paying customers, have a right to disagree and argue our points.

[Cirque]

Hersch, on 08 November 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

Cirque, on 08 November 2009 - 08:42 PM, said:

The fact of the matter is, Jagex owns your character, and everything in relation to your character. Period. They can do with it as they wish, although the claim was infact false that you could revert back, the argument is pointless, as 1) they won't let you change it back. 2) it's THEIR name.

You're completely right that Jagex does in fact own all of our characters, but the argument isn't really pointless. We're paying customers and have a right to complain about what we believe isn't fair. We're also not discussing if we are going to be able to change them back, but is what Jagex doing fair? We all know it's their game and thus we have to follow their rules, but we, as paying customers, have a right to disagree and argue our points.

You have the right, that's correct. I'm pointing out it won't do any good. Lots of things businesses do aren't ethical nor fair. It's a machine, as long as the mass is happy, and since the masses don't have rare names, they're just glad to not have a name like zezima09384. I have quite a few names that I really like, none of which are rare though. I do truly feel sorry for those whose names did get messed up. What's done is done. Put things into perspective, is it really that big of a deal? I think not. "bigger fish to fry"

[Seed Smoker]

Jagex is comprised of human beings, like yourself; they're open to error, as we all know. I believe it to be the case here, that is, that Jagex has simply overlooked the fact that players like yourself will not be able to revert back to their previous display name. Perhaps it was intentional, but then, is it really an unfair thing to have done? I mean, complications do arise when dealing with multiple spaces in usernames, or, say, multiple x's, such as when filing abuse reports and so on.

As for Jagex lying, I don't think that's the fairest term one can use to describe what they have done. Lying, by my definition, is when one says something untrue knowing. In this case, I'm not so sure if it was knowingly.

[JaKeX]

I didn;t like repeated letters, but why ban them? It is pretty stupid, for sure.

[Cirque]

JaKeX, on 08 November 2009 - 11:19 PM, said:

I didn;t like repeated letters, but why ban them? It is pretty stupid, for sure.

They're not banned, they just can't Change their name, for example if your name was S--ERQUE and you changed your display name, then after 30 days you wanted to switch back to s--erque it wouldn't let you, because that name isn't eligible, as explained by the JaGEx Terms of service.

[Maxman]

Cirque, on 09 November 2009 - 06:54 PM, said:

JaKeX, on 08 November 2009 - 11:19 PM, said:

I didn;t like repeated letters, but why ban them? It is pretty stupid, for sure.

They're not banned, they just can't Change their name, for example if your name was S--ERQUE and you changed your display name, then after 30 days you wanted to switch back to s--erque it wouldn't let you, because that name isn't eligible, as explained by the JaGEx Terms of service.

Yeah, they changed double spacing in names about 2 years ago. This may be another reason Jagex wanted the display name system, so they could get players to change their name. They can't ban players for it.

[Sarrakas]

Cirque, on 09 November 2009 - 04:43 AM, said:

[You have the right, that's correct. I'm pointing out it won't do any good. Lots of things businesses do aren't ethical nor fair. It's a machine, as long as the mass is happy, and since the masses don't have rare names, they're just glad to not have a name like zezima09384. I have quite a few names that I really like, none of which are rare though. I do truly feel sorry for those whose names did get messed up. What's done is done. Put things into perspective, is it really that big of a deal? I think not. "bigger fish to fry"

It's likely that nothing will change just because we're discussing Jagex' decision in terms of fairness, but saying it won't do any good because lots of things businesses do aren't ethical nor fair is nonsense in my opinion. Just because a mass of people is fine with the way things go, it doesn't mean people shouldn't stand up for what they believe is right. I'll give you an example, though in importance it's not all too comparable to a name of a RuneScape character. Just because pretty much everyone in the industrialized countries are fine with the exploitation of people and resources in many third world countries, or at least don't protest against it, it doesn't mean it's right. How much worse would the world be if absolutely no-one stood up against unethical tactics of companies as long as there's not a majority of people willing to stand up against it? Pretty scary thought if you ask me. You said to put things into perspective and I agree with you, but I don't think the author or the people discussing the name change on a topic are wasting time over discussing the matter here, regardless of whether there are bigger fish to fry or not. There are always bigger fish to fry.

Tank of H3ll, on 10 November 2009 - 05:48 AM, said:

Your account is the property of Jagex. They can do whatever the heck they want with it lol

I think that fact has already been established, but it holds little relevance to the point of this topic.

[Kinky Pie]

Hm, that does seem sort of unfair, but I guess I never understood the importance of names?

One thing I don't really follow is why people would change their name in the first place and then want to change it back again? That seems somewhat pointless, but to each their own I guess?

However (like everyone else is saying) while the idea of them telling everyone they can do something but then lying about it makes me wonder why they even said it was okay in the FIRST place, there isn't too much that can be done.

[Sarab3tch]

Most of the people I've talked to who play the game get highly
annoyed with people with multiple letter's in their name or just
numbers altogether, but since they're not offensive, I don't see
why Jagex would go back on their word about being able to revert
back to your old name within a certain amount of time. I don't
know if Jagex would go to the extreme of checking everyone's names
and making you change it if you did have more than 2-3 letters in a
row, but if you like your name currently it doesn't make much sense
to change it. I agree in the sense that it's difficult to remember
some of these names and more difficult to put in the right account
name to report. So in a way, this is probably for the better.
They should make their intent more clear next time, or atleast make
it clear that there is exceptions to their rules so that people aren't
feeling cheated.

[Spank]

Tbh i think the whole name change was a ridiculous update. YOU get to chose your name in the first place, so if you are unhappy with it then thats your fault.

[Hedgehog]

Spank, on 12 November 2009 - 09:47 AM, said:

Tbh i think the whole name change was a ridiculous update. YOU get to chose your name in the first place, so if you are unhappy with it then thats your fault.

The fact is that people's ideas change over time. I don't know about you, but I think a lot differently than I did when I was 13. Not everyone creates a new character every time they want a new name. So, for those people who have had their accounts since they were 13 and whose ideas have changed since then, this update makes perfect sense. Sure, it's your fault that you made your name what it is, but it makes sense that people would want a different name than the one they may have chosen years ago.

[Meili]

Gosh, I hadn't realized that. Thankfully I made my chars back in 2001 so I was able to get the perfect names (without numbers, random letters like xxx, spaces or punctuation). This does seem rather unfair but you can't really argue with the reasoning behind it. I'm sure a lot of people with confusing names are hard to report. :(

IMO they should take off 0s in names, it's really hard to see if a name is O or 0.

[Spank]

Hedgehog, on 12 November 2009 - 07:35 AM, said:

Spank, on 12 November 2009 - 09:47 AM, said:

Tbh i think the whole name change was a ridiculous update. YOU get to chose your name in the first place, so if you are unhappy with it then thats your fault.

The fact is that people's ideas change over time. I don't know about you, but I think a lot differently than I did when I was 13. Not everyone creates a new character every time they want a new name. So, for those people who have had their accounts since they were 13 and whose ideas have changed since then, this update makes perfect sense. Sure, it's your fault that you made your name what it is, but it makes sense that people would want a different name than the one they may have chosen years ago.

Touche i see your point, But if we didnt have this update people should have put more though into their name before making the acc. Just my opinion

This post has been edited by Spank: 13 November 2009 - 08:44 AM

[Sirkyles]

Well you just need to think...
"Hey name changes that is cool. Lets go do that now. Wait! Wait! Do I like my name.?. Yes I do... Do I have one of the most original names in the game with sirkyles, Yes I do. Have I had this name from 2001 and not want to have any chance that something might go wrong and lose it. Yes... 'Thinks to himself for a while' Ok, cool idea but a no for me.
This is my logic, it worked for me.

This post has been edited by nhl_guy11: 13 November 2009 - 08:50 AM

[Freakinapie]

I came to the decision to NOT change my name based on many different factors. First of all, I've had this name since 2001. It was unique at the time, and it is still unique today. I get comments all the time about my name, thus, I had absolutely no reason whatsoever to have any desire to change my name. To those of you who did, maybe the deception on Jagex's part was a little uncalled for, however quitting because of it, may be a little uncalled for as well.