[M]

Many people flocked to change their name last month, including people with rare or unique names. Now people who had multiple spaced names or names that no longer fit the current guidelines to make new accounts are unable to revert back to their original account name and must choose a new display name for which to play.

This has happened to me. I changed my account name from Attackxxxxxx to "x wingardium" to share a name with my friend who changed to "leviosa x", and I am now unable to change back to Attackxxxxxx, as names with more than two x's in a row can not be created.

Perhaps this was just an oversight, however, it seems that Jagex is using this side-effect to their benefit, effectively /banning/ all players with rare or unique names that likely would not have caused any controversy. The update clearly states that after the 28 days, players will be able to change back to their original display name, however, this is not true. Their words are more than misleading, they are lies.

"After these 28 days, you will have a period of time in which you can revert back to your previous display name, should you wish. You will have at least 7 days after the 28 days to revert to your previous display name, as it will be ‘held’ for you and unavailable to anyone else in this time. Depending on how long that name was in your possession before you changed it, you may have more than 7 days to revert to your reserved name."

Many people with multi-spaced names are forced to change names, as are people with 3+ xs in their name, along with a few other situations. There are a few posts on the RSOFs concerning this, including a post that I made.

My post & story:
Quick find code: 133-134-536-59822159

I2-----un's post:
Quick find code: 133-134-244-59817561

And another..
Quick find code: 133-134-732-59815374

The two above have posts by Jagex Moderators.

I understand that players with multi-spaced names are difficult to report, but does anyone think Jagex is seriously acting within reason by not regarding this as a serious issue that needs correction? They're deceiving their player-base. Plain and simple.

[tonton]

Jagex is a business, I don't think x used 3 times in a row will lose them money, so they aren't being deceptive. They do not want people to be very annoyed with things, then people may stop getting membership.

[Lataille]

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Hi R UUUUU NNN,

With the user name changes it states that the name may not contain more than one consecutive punctuation character or space. This applies to old names also.

One reason for this is so that names can be identified easily. We would hate for a player to be wrongly reported because the person reporting didn't add the correct number of spaces or punctuation.

Under the new name guidelines we do not allow people to use consecutive spaces, so adding a revert option will go against the rules that all players are following at the moment.

I would suggest if you wish to have your old name back that you recreate it, but without the consecutive punctuation.

Mod SM

[Slaywulf21]

They are honestly putting way to many restrictions on this. As long as its not vulgar whats the problem??

[M]

tonton, on 30 October 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

Jagex is a business, I don't think x used 3 times in a row will lose them money, so they aren't being deceptive. They do not want people to be very annoyed with things, then people may stop getting membership.

It's already lost them $19 of my money, and $5 of my best friend's. What's not deceptive about saying you can have your old name back, then not giving it back?

The original news post does not say that the single-space in names applies to old names. Names like this should be grandfathered in, if not, I want everyone with one or two letter names to have the same done to them. It's only fair, is it not?

[tonton]

M, on 30 October 2009 - 07:04 PM, said:

tonton, on 30 October 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

Jagex is a business, I don't think x used 3 times in a row will lose them money, so they aren't being deceptive. They do not want people to be very annoyed with things, then people may stop getting membership.

It's already lost them $19 of my money, and $5 of my best friend's. What's not deceptive about saying you can have your old name back, then not giving it back?

The original news post does not say that the single-space in names applies to old names. Names like this should be grandfathered in, if not, I want everyone with one or two letter names to have the same done to them. It's only fair, is it not?

Okay, they made a mistake. But it was not intentional so in my view it isn't deceptive.

[M]

tonton, on 30 October 2009 - 06:07 PM, said:

M, on 30 October 2009 - 07:04 PM, said:

tonton, on 30 October 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

Jagex is a business, I don't think x used 3 times in a row will lose them money, so they aren't being deceptive. They do not want people to be very annoyed with things, then people may stop getting membership.

It's already lost them $19 of my money, and $5 of my best friend's. What's not deceptive about saying you can have your old name back, then not giving it back?

The original news post does not say that the single-space in names applies to old names. Names like this should be grandfathered in, if not, I want everyone with one or two letter names to have the same done to them. It's only fair, is it not?

Okay, they made a mistake. But it was not intentional so in my view it isn't deceptive.

They are taking advantage of an oversight the developers made and are harming their paying customers. That's obviously abusing and taking advantage of the situation. /Bug abuse/ some may even call it.

[Bolshevik]

If that is what is happening, it really is a low-blow on that part of Jagex; taking advantage of people wanting to change their names, and then taking away the original name in order to cut down on the "rare name controversy." Something'll be done about this if enough people speak up about it, especially since it's a deception more than anything else.

[Ignorance]

tonton, on 30 October 2009 - 05:58 PM, said:

Jagex is a business, I don't think x used 3 times in a row will lose them money, so they aren't being deceptive. They do not want people to be very annoyed with things, then people may stop getting membership.

To be honest if people having more than 3 x's in their name makes them not want to buy membership then they have problems...

[theobymogre]

The conspiracyesque idea seems a bit much, but this has been bothering me. There are better ways to go about taking away the use of double spaces in avoiding reportation, and a double space in a username isn't always for more nefarious purposes. It seems people may soon have another way of showing off unusualities. ~The

Lataille, on 30 October 2009 - 08:59 PM, said:

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Hi R UUUUU NNN,

With the user name changes it states that the name may not contain more than one consecutive punctuation character or space. This applies to old names also.

One reason for this is so that names can be identified easily. We would hate for a player to be wrongly reported because the person reporting didn't add the correct number of spaces or punctuation.

Under the new name guidelines we do not allow people to use consecutive spaces, so adding a revert option will go against the rules that all players are following at the moment.

I would suggest if you wish to have your old name back that you recreate it, but without the consecutive punctuation.

Mod SM

That's aggressively unhelpful, I am beginning to think more of deceivery on Jagex's part. Besides, a wrongly reported player would have no evidence against them. ~The

[iAssasin]

Something odd has happened, here's an example.

Player A changes his name to Random.
Player B changes his name to 'Player A'.
Random is unable to revert back to his original name, rendering it lost.

At the moment I'm unsure if this is a mistake or not.

[tonton]

Don't you get it? They don't want to annoy their customers! They aren't this big evil organisation people think they are.

[Aragon]

iAssasin, on 31 October 2009 - 08:30 AM, said:

Something odd has happened, here's an example.

Player A changes his name to Random.
Player B changes his name to 'Player A'.
Random is unable to revert back to his original name, rendering it lost.

At the moment I'm unsure if this is a mistake or not.

It's not a mistake, it drops your original name so somebody else can take it after you permanently switch over to your changed name. One way to prevent this from happening is by making a new level 3 with your old name so nobody else can take it.

[~Kalt]

Why would you change your name if you had an account name like that?

How is Jagex being deceptive in the slightest? Those names are no longer allowed, so you change your name, why would they allow you to go back to said name with multiple spaces ect.

[Hersch]

~Kalt, on 31 October 2009 - 08:50 PM, said:

Why would you change your name if you had an account name like that?

Because he said it was basically just sort of a joke with a friend, as he knew he could change it back in 28 days, which apparently is not the case.

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How is Jagex being deceptive in the slightest? Those names are no longer allowed, so you change your name, why would they allow you to go back to said name with multiple spaces ect.

They're being deceptive as they say "you can have your original name back after X days", but then turn around and say they aren't allowed anymore. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't say you can have your original name back and fail to mention the new rules also apply to old names before the update.

If my original username was to be restricted when I changed it back, they should have mentioned that before I changed it.

[W i l l i am]

Pretty nice feature, I've always wanted to change my name... Runescape give a little and takes a little, not everyone can be kept happy in this world... I'm sure they will release something soon that will make you happy again, and make you forget about this little blip in your RuneScape life.

Ouch.. I upset someone with this post.. lol

This post has been edited by GarfieldH: 01 November 2009 - 03:35 AM

[Ash Ketchum]

Deceptive? You've simply been lucky all this time they didn't go around forcing those with names that didn't fit the updated rules, those that weren't offensive (bans for those that were, of course). Sooner or later I'm sure we'll see forced name changes for active users with rule-breaching names that out-date the new feature anyway.

[Arno]

It does look like a fiendish trick, played by Jagex. But can you blame them? Those "rare" names are very, very annoying and aesthetically unpleasing to the eye. They're very difficult to report and even more difficult to remember. If they had announced that they'd be restricting the punctuation and consecutive letters, none of those "rare name" players would have changed their name. So they had to fool you and leave out a bit of very important information in order to get the desired results. Deceptive? Yes. Necessary? Very much so.

[Monky92]

I'm sure there are better alternatives to one's name, when they could not revert back to their original one. It was only for the better of the game, since these apparently 'offensive' names were just unnecessary overall.

Somehow, I'm sure someone will pull out the "we pay we say" argument here.

[The duck]

Aragon, on 31 October 2009 - 03:21 PM, said:

iAssasin, on 31 October 2009 - 08:30 AM, said:

Something odd has happened, here's an example.

Player A changes his name to Random.
Player B changes his name to 'Player A'.
Random is unable to revert back to his original name, rendering it lost.

At the moment I'm unsure if this is a mistake or not.

It's not a mistake, it drops your original name so somebody else can take it after you permanently switch over to your changed name. One way to prevent this from happening is by making a new level 3 with your old name so nobody else can take it.

But that means that level 3 needs membership aswell.

I really wonder why Jagex makes it possible for others to choose your log-in name as display name, doesn't that create confusion?

This post has been edited by The duck: 01 November 2009 - 09:50 AM