[Fartcaster]

So we all know that Jagex have done a lot, and I mean a hell of a lot of updates to try and crack down on RwT, but in all honesty I think they've done more bad than good to the game. I know for a fact that RwT has been lowered a hell of a lot, but there will always be a 'method' and RwT will still happen. As for PvP worlds and Bounty Hunter worlds. They have only had a minor affect on the RwT issues throughout the game, but they have had a major affect on the economy, which at the end of the day is a worse issue than RwT. Is it the case of Jagex having to calm down?

I see it like this. The UK is nowhere near perfect. Let's take Gun/Knife crime for an example. The UK is trying it's best to stop this crime, but it is impossible to stop it. There will always be a way for people to get Knifes, whether they are from another Country or from an innocent shop like Tesco's, Sainsbury's or whatever it may be. Which kind of relates to Runescape.

But when push comes to shove, it is virtually impossible to find a solution to the RwT problems without affecting another section of the game, I.E; the economy.

Opinions?

[Hedgehog]

Just because RWT might be impossible to entirely stop doesn't mean Jagex shouldn't try. That's like saying that since the UK government will never be able to completely stop gun/knife crime, they shouldn't bother trying. You can't say that Jagex haven't significantly reduced RWT since its state pre-trade limit. The effect these changes have on the economy are insignificant compared to stopping RWT.

[Fartcaster]

Hedgehog, on 29 October 2009 - 04:06 PM, said:

Just because RWT might be impossible to entirely stop doesn't mean Jagex shouldn't try. That's like saying that since the UK government will never be able to completely stop gun/knife crime, they shouldn't bother trying. You can't say that Jagex haven't significantly reduced RWT since its state pre-trade limit. The effect these changes have on the economy are insignificant compared to stopping RWT.

I never said that.

Tribe said:

I know for a fact that RwT has been lowered a hell of a lot,

This post has been edited by Tribe: 29 October 2009 - 10:10 AM

[Natures Idol]

I'm happy with how much RWT and Botting has been stopped from what it was 2 years ago, even if it's not perfect. As long as Jagex keep making an effort, I'm happy :)

[Hedgehog]

Tribe, on 29 October 2009 - 11:09 AM, said:

Hedgehog, on 29 October 2009 - 04:06 PM, said:

Just because RWT might be impossible to entirely stop doesn't mean Jagex shouldn't try. That's like saying that since the UK government will never be able to completely stop gun/knife crime, they shouldn't bother trying. You can't say that Jagex haven't significantly reduced RWT since its state pre-trade limit. The effect these changes have on the economy are insignificant compared to stopping RWT.

I never said that.

Tribe said:

I know for a fact that RwT has been lowered a hell of a lot,

Sorry, I guess I mis-interpreted you a bit. But that still wasn't the main point of what I was saying. The fact that they have reduced RWT so much is enough to say that it's worth it.

[Kylet11]

Don't matter jagex doesnt care about the economy, they care about that pretty pay check at the end of the week.

[Bolshevik]

When there is a problem and everything you seem to do to stop it occurs, that doesn't equate to you stopped whole-heartedly and just giving up. It might seem kinda stupid from the outside, like why would you even try when it's going to happen no matter what you do, but it comes down to morals more than anything else. When you know something is bad and you want to do something about it, pretty much you'll do anything in order to stop it. RWT was a huge problem, but it did have its general good effects on the economy; it kept most of the necessary items at hand pretty low, and kept things working in a somewhat decent fashion [I know it sounds like a bad thing to say, leeching off of a problem that hurts people in real life]. RWT was a problem that has been, for the most part, taken care of by Jagex; if it pops up again, because I know it will, Jagex is going to try to keep it out of their game because they want their game to be fair.

[Hedgehog]

Kylet11, on 29 October 2009 - 11:16 AM, said:

Don't matter jagex doesnt care about the economy, they care about that pretty pay check at the end of the week.

The fact that they care about making money is reason enough for them to care about the game's economy. If enough players get annoyed at the game's economy, they make less money. Simple as that. Jagex do care about the players and their concerns, even if only as a means to make money.

[Arno]

Kylet11, on 29 October 2009 - 05:16 PM, said:

Don't matter jagex doesnt care about the economy, they care about that pretty pay check at the end of the week.

They do care about their pay check, but that also implies that they need to care about the economy.

The game = their pay check.
Bad game = no pay check.

[Earthman155]

It was better playing when bots were arround, they never bothered me.

Another thing is Grand Exchange. I mean, it's easy to get the items for quests and other skills. But merchanting has been made more complicated... I used to make around 200k an hour merchanting coal in Falador, but now, I don't even merchant, because I don't know how to...

I loved the prices when bots were around, they kept prices just right, the income of fresh material in game was just right. That's one thing I liked about RuneScape; stabile market. Now, Jagex can manually control prices, which in my opinion, is very bad, because prices should be based on players, now the Jagex team...

This post has been edited by Earthman155: 29 October 2009 - 10:28 AM

[Darrk]

It's impossible to stop it, but Jagex has done enough to keep RWT from ruining they're business. (Even though they sacrificed a lot, from RSC to 2007 to now)

[Aserwarth]

Really, another RWT topic.

They had to do what they did. I know it is not gone forever, and never will be, but that being said it has to be done. The game has been affected dramatically by it, but it would NOT exist anymore if actions were never taken. This any action by Jagex was justified.

[Aragon]

Honestly, it's our fault for abusing the privlages they gave us. We had so much available to us, and they left it open for us to do as we pleased. Maybe it was a fault by them from the start for allowing us to have so much freedom? Possibly this gave us the impression that we can do anything we want despite those stupid thing called rules everybody has on their websites? But it could also definitely be our fault since so many people evaded the rules as they pleased.

Jagex is simply re-inforcing the rules, if they have to shut down PvP to do so then be it. People don't realize that the RWT they did is the cause of this. So the answer to this thread is no - Jagex is not making the game worse, we are.

[Aserwarth]

Aragon, on 30 October 2009 - 12:11 PM, said:

Jagex is simply re-inforcing the rules, if they have to shut down PvP to do so then be it. People don't realize that the RWT they did is the cause of this. So the answer to this thread is no - Jagex is not making the game worse, we are.

Quoted for truth. I have always felt this. People need to learn to act like responsible human being on the internet.

[DehMasta]

i think jagex should still try to clamp down on RWT but only in very minor ways now that will not effect other players as they have already reduced it by a lot so just small things now that dont make much difference i think would be good
You can not however compare jagex to the UK government as jagex isnt a corrupt company, it actually does something and it doesnt live of the taxpayers money to make them filthy rich for no apparent reason by getting a lot of expenses

[rachellove9]

RWT is a terrible thing and Jagex was trying to do the right thing for the better of mankind. I'll gladly give up some features of rs to help with mankind.

Rachy <3

RWT is a terrible thing and Jagex was trying to do the right thing for the better of mankind.&nbsp; I'll gladly give up some features of rs to help with mankind.<br><br>Rachy &lt;3<br>

[thehelloman0]

Aserwarth, on 30 October 2009 - 06:08 PM, said:

Quoted for truth. I have always felt this. People need to learn to act like responsible human being on the internet.

...which will most likely never happen

On your point, you are wrong. No point in arguing, you are wrong. Getting rid of real world trading was the best thing jagex did, like it or not.

...unless you would like to have a game that doesn't exist.

[iSukh]

I think Jagex have done a decent job on trying to get rid of RWT, but like Infinite said, there will always be ways around it.

[Aragon]

iSukh, on 30 October 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:

I think Jagex have done a decent job on trying to get rid of RWT, but like Infinite said, there will always be ways around it.

Definitely not true. With the elimination of 76king (somewhat) it is extremely hard to transfer money. Any other way there is to transfer now I'm sure Jagex will do their best to stop it.

[Bolshevik]

Aragon, on 30 October 2009 - 06:16 PM, said:

iSukh, on 30 October 2009 - 06:41 PM, said:

I think Jagex have done a decent job on trying to get rid of RWT, but like Infinite said, there will always be ways around it.

Definitely not true. With the elimination of 76king (somewhat) it is extremely hard to transfer money. Any other way there is to transfer now I'm sure Jagex will do their best to stop it.

They can try to do their best to stop most of the methods, and they have curbed a good amount of them so far, but even if they try to squash all of them, some more pop up here and there. I do agree that it'd be nice to see something done about all of them, but there'll always be a way around it.